BLACK BOX

Well the ever popular debate on black boxes to be honest it is the fisherman who catches fish, its all in the roll of the bait. However saying that i can lower the voltage on my boat by doing certain things to clips and different wire and adding more or less zincs on a boat. The other thing is when you meter the cable at the boat say at .6 of a volt do we even know what it is at the bottom of the cannonball that is 90 ft down with your flaser and bait 30 feet back? Also i know from personal experience that every day on the ocean is totally different with the mixture of fresh water in the ocean if you are fishing near creeks and river like pt. renfrew it changes the polarity quite a bit.It seems where i fish on the west coast that the fish bite mostly on the tide changes and the incoming floods so there will be times when your out there at the crack of dawn to times when you go out at 11:00 in the morning but i also think if you are confident in what you know works you seem to catch fish you can put a piece of bait in a holder and just tell you are going to catch a fish with that perfect roll if you put it in there thinking oh it may work you might catch a fish or your going to drown that pice of bait all day long until then good luck wolf
 
Well the ever popular debate on black boxes to be honest it is the fisherman who catches fish, its all in the roll of the bait. However saying that i can lower the voltage on my boat by doing certain things to clips and different wire and adding more or less zincs on a boat. The other thing is when you meter the cable at the boat say at .6 of a volt do we even know what it is at the bottom of the cannonball that is 90 ft down with your flaser and bait 30 feet back? Also i know from personal experience that every day on the ocean is totally different with the mixture of fresh water in the ocean if you are fishing near creeks and river like pt. renfrew it changes the polarity quite a bit.It seems where i fish on the west coast that the fish bite mostly on the tide changes and the incoming floods so there will be times when your out there at the crack of dawn to times when you go out at 11:00 in the morning but i also think if you are confident in what you know works you seem to catch fish you can put a piece of bait in a holder and just tell you are going to catch a fish with that perfect roll if you put it in there thinking oh it may work you might catch a fish or your going to drown that pice of bait all day long until then good luck wolf
 
I disagree that it is all in the roll. Back many years ago when I was working at a marina with a rental boat fleet I once witnessed a guy catch a 30 pound spring on a blue anchovy special teaser head, but the kicker is, there was no bait in the head. FISH ARE STUPID
When there are few fish around the roll of the bait becomes important.
 
I disagree that it is all in the roll. Back many years ago when I was working at a marina with a rental boat fleet I once witnessed a guy catch a 30 pound spring on a blue anchovy special teaser head, but the kicker is, there was no bait in the head. FISH ARE STUPID
When there are few fish around the roll of the bait becomes important.
 
I'm still amazed that fisherman will not give credit to themselves for catching fish but will credit the voltage of the boat or the color of teaser head. Years of experience in knowing what depths and colors and speed combined with times of year catch fish. Do you really think that a newbie that reads a book on how to catch salmon and bought all the equipment of a charter guy is going to hammer fish like the charter guy....NO because of the life time expeience that the charter guy has accumulated over the years. That what catches fish, not just one thing like the roll of you chovie, numerous factors combined.
 
I'm still amazed that fisherman will not give credit to themselves for catching fish but will credit the voltage of the boat or the color of teaser head. Years of experience in knowing what depths and colors and speed combined with times of year catch fish. Do you really think that a newbie that reads a book on how to catch salmon and bought all the equipment of a charter guy is going to hammer fish like the charter guy....NO because of the life time expeience that the charter guy has accumulated over the years. That what catches fish, not just one thing like the roll of you chovie, numerous factors combined.
 
Yo mama isnt that what i had basically said? I totally agree with you on that it isnt just the bait roll but i would say 75% of it is i have been chartering off of sooke now for more than 8 years and fished it for 20 and i have experimented with different baits and rolls to see what fish seem to like and i have come to my own conclusions in what they like and dislike. Also when it comes to voltage on the wire different cannonballs read differently then others i have metered some that were higher than normal and some that were lower than normal it all depends on whoever made them and how pure the led is and the best time to check it is while your out fishing not at the dock where you will get a false reading from marinas with power hookups and other boats near you because as you know electricity takes the easiest route i find it amazing the amount of people that accually fish out there that dont catch fish so the blame it on a boats voltage so they go and buy one of those black boxes and still dont catch as many fish then they ask me why i dont have one on my boat i just tell them i dont need one as i throw another slab on to the fish cleaning table.Its all dependent on how you know the area and the experience that you have as you said great insight thanks. Wolf
 
Yo mama isnt that what i had basically said? I totally agree with you on that it isnt just the bait roll but i would say 75% of it is i have been chartering off of sooke now for more than 8 years and fished it for 20 and i have experimented with different baits and rolls to see what fish seem to like and i have come to my own conclusions in what they like and dislike. Also when it comes to voltage on the wire different cannonballs read differently then others i have metered some that were higher than normal and some that were lower than normal it all depends on whoever made them and how pure the led is and the best time to check it is while your out fishing not at the dock where you will get a false reading from marinas with power hookups and other boats near you because as you know electricity takes the easiest route i find it amazing the amount of people that accually fish out there that dont catch fish so the blame it on a boats voltage so they go and buy one of those black boxes and still dont catch as many fish then they ask me why i dont have one on my boat i just tell them i dont need one as i throw another slab on to the fish cleaning table.Its all dependent on how you know the area and the experience that you have as you said great insight thanks. Wolf
 
One thing that has always baffled me is the fact that you can fish from 5am til 2pm and not have a bite and then all of a sudden every boat in sight is playing a fish. I wonder if those fish are there all along or a school moves in.
I happen to belive that those fish are there all trhe time because if the is a BITE at 2pm, it is most likely that the BITE will come on at 2pm the following day or close to it.
 
have you ever thought that that was when the incoming flood started because with every incoming flood it brings in more bait and those big spring follow, you have to remember those big fish dont like to swim hard against current that how they get so big they are a lazy fish so when the current pushes them in to the shoreline thats where we as fisherman wait for them and all hell breaks loose. FISH ON!!!!!
 
Wolf I don't think that it is the flood tide. It happens on both the flood and the ebb and neither one more than the other. C.S I have seen the same thing happen in many areas and it puzzles me. Its usually pretty close to the same time everyday
TT
 
TT where are you fishing when the ebb is as good as a flood we fish on the west coast side (Sooke) and it is mostly tide dependent and cuurent dependent. also where i guide in knight inlet in the summer an incoming flood is 99 times out of a 100 going to be a great time we even change our outing times to maximize the whole incoming flood so the guests have the most chance of getting a big fish and the most fish.but in saying that the crack of morning you will always catch fish for the first hour especially if you are fishing over reefs the bait moves in close to shore at night to hide in the kelp thats why the springs are there but as soon as the sun starts to hit the water and creating shawdows the fish leave the shallows and head into deeper waters havent you wondered why you catch more fish on a cloudy or overcast day in shallow water 30 to 50 ft? think about it NO shadows hhhhhmmmmmm.
 
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