Easy to catch once you find where they hang out. They will hit anything and usually we catch them on whatever we have down for salmon, even plastic. They tend to be mid water schooling fish more so than many other rockfish species. We usually find them in bays with rock walls and reefs but in a little more open mid water, down say, 50 feet (could be 30, could be 60). If we want to target them we go to one of our known spots, troll around and search with the sounder till we see a school, then adjust the riggers and stay on top of them. Don't take too many out of any one school, but with the Rockfish restrictions we have, that's not a big issue. We don't use chovies on them unless they are old beat up ones -too expensive.