x2 Halibut-face on the Shimano TDR's. I have 4 or 5 of them and they can take a beating. I used a 8 1/2' TDR med weight all summer while doing some sturgeon research. It was unreal, even on a 385# fish and the best is that I still use that rod today fishing for Gerrard Rainbows. They just keep on going. One thing I would like to know is where the $%#@& you find them for $25? I have a 11' Fenwick Legacy that I bought a few years ago, but have not used it yet. I am taking it out with me this fall to try it out.