Backwards tide flow?

[Lipripper]

Fishing Sooke last weekend I launched the boat in the morning with almost not enough water to float the boat off the trailer. Went fishing and was bucking a ebb the whole time out. Thinking that it would be impossible to get back on the trailer the tide was high when we got to the ramp. Same thing on Wednesday. The tide graph was pretty much bang on but the flow was backwards.
What gives? anyone else noticed this or am I smokin something?

 

[Rum Buddies]

quote: anyone else noticed this or am I smokin something

I wouldn't rule that out completely

http://www.fishingvancouverisland.org

 

[profisher]

Tide and current are 2 different things. If you fish Sheringham at all you will notice that often the current is still ebbing hard and yet with each pass of the reef the rock disappears and the seals have no place to lay. The water will rise even thou the current hasn't stopped ebbing and made its turn to flood. Call it lag time if you want.

 

[Charlie]

quote:Originally posted by profisher

Tide and current are 2 different things.

X2

 

[Doug]

I use the Murray's Table and a tide flow chart for tide flow speed and direction. It's excellent for hali fishing.

You will then know which way you'll be facing and how fast the tide will be flowing.



Let's Go Fishing!
Doug
D&D Fishing Charters

 

[MILLERTIME]

We often forget that we live on an island surrounded by water and that
tides can come and go from either direction.

 

[vetteman]

Tides and currents can be funny.On a flood tide,the water flows from the Vancouver Island side of Gabriola,Porlier and Active Passes out into Georgia Straight.Conversley,on an ebb tide,it flows back in towards Vancouver Island.
Dave

 

[Lipripper]

quote:Originally posted by MILLERTIME

We often forget that we live on an island surrounded by water and that
tides can come and go from either direction.

Yeah..... kind of what I was thinking... Saturday was weird with a ebb current for the full flood. I understand the lag of current change but it seemed different to me

 

[Bushbear]

Here's a link to a NOAA site for current information. A couple of locations are covered in the Strait under the BC and Washington pages that might be of use.
http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents10/cpred2.html#OR

 

[Bushbear]

...and here is another link for wind and current in the Strait. The current info is east of a line between PA and Victoria. I find the BIS Portal wind info to be closer to reality than the NOAA weather site.


http://bis_portal.apl.washington.edu/bis_portal_app.php

 

[chris73]

Maybe think of it that way: you take a bottle of water, point it downwards to spill water. Then you turn the bottle upright again. During this process while you are raising the bottle some water will still spill and even when your bottle is already full upright there might be still water splashing on the floor (depends on how high you held it up from the floor). Water spilled before will still find its way even though the causing conditions (tides) have changed already. Called inertia. The higher you held the bottle (the higher the amplitude or energy of the tide movement) the longer water will continue to hit the floor after you have raised the bottle upright again.

 

[TheRock]

Same discussion came up on the Victoria Spring/summer thread this season.. here are my posts from that explaining it with some current and tide station pics,
http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14712&whichpage=22

http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14712&whichpage=24


"I interpret it as the tide tables tell you the height of the water and not much more... the current table tell you the direction of the currents (Flood and Ebb) , between current changes is when you get your "slake tide" or "tide change" as every one calls it.. I always here on the Radio guys asking when is tide change and usually some one replies and they always get it wrong cause their looking at the tide tables... you want to look at the current tables... I only look at the tide table twice a year ! Once in the spring when we launch our boat to know the tide/water height for the ramp and in October when we pull the boat out... that is all I use the tide tables for.. "

 

[beemer]

I once had a instructor who referred to tide change as the bucket effect. Imagine a sloshing bucket full of liquid , even though the water is rising and appears to be moving in one direction it is actually moving in the opposite direction.

I like the tide/current predictor wxtide combined with a good chart.

 

[Lipripper]

I wouldn't have brought this up if this was something I had seen before.......
I understand the diff between tides and currents....Understand that there is a lag between changes.... seen it a million times(damn near but insert sarcasm)
The tide levels on the gov site and BWD were bang on but totally bass ackwards on the current side [?]