Area 20 chinook abudance 2019 VS 2018!!

[wildmanyeah]

177 in 2019 VS 11 in 2018!! to July 24th.

What is the data telling us more pinks and Chinook should be around and less sockeye. What are the guys that fish out there seeing???

 

[SpringVelocity]

This really hurts seeing this data.

 

[wildmanyeah]

Yeah its very tough to look at it, its even better than the 2015 brood year

 

[agentaqua]

What's in the "other" category?

 

[calmsea]

Definitely more Chinook out there this year. Pinks, of course more than last year but probably much fewer than in previous cycles. Coho about the same, I would agree.

 

[littlechucky]

I am guessing Chinook “jacks” are in fact feeders.

If that is the case, the next couple of years should be just as abundant.

 

[wildmanyeah]

What's in the "other" category?

from the comments dogfish is the one main ones.

 

[ReelSlim]

Definitely more Chinook out there this year. Pinks, of course more than last year but probably much fewer than in previous cycles. Coho about the same, I would agree.

I would agree with calmsea. Although today out at Swiftsure there seemed to be no shortage of Pinks.

 

[wildmanyeah]

What's in the "other" category?

I emailed PSC and this is their response

"
Hi .....,


Fish in the “Other” category are almost all dogfish. Non-salmon fish caught are all released.


Eric"

"
Yes, the Chinook catch is definitely a surprise this year. Hopefully, it is a good sign!


Eric"

 

[Rockfish]

It is hard to get excited about the Area 20 Sockeye from a Public Sector Fishery perspective. For years now they have only given us an opening every 4th year and it is always the same year as the men's Soccer World Cup, apparently that is the strongest year for Fraser Sockeye runs in the cycle. If we are lucky they will open for us while the main run still has some numbers in JDF, if not they will open it closer to the end of the run and we can try for stragglers. But after this year who the hell knows what the future will bring.

 

[Rockfish]

I am guessing Chinook “jacks” are in fact feeders.

If that is the case, the next couple of years should be just as abundant.

One wonders how they can tell a Jack from a Feeder, unless they were all small and had the pre-spawning gold hue or had DNA analysis and perhaps a head tag. You would think they would need some kind of evidence that a small Chinook caught in the ocean at distance from its river is in fact a Jack and not a feeder.

 

[wildmanyeah]

I’m pretty sure they are just calling a jack anything under a certain size.

 

[wildmanyeah]

But after this year who the hell knows what the future will bring.

Early Stuart/ Early summer fraser sockeye numbers are looking very bad, just like Skeena and Port Alberni.


brood year

 

[Rockfish]

Early fraser sockeye numbers are looking very bad, just like Skeena and Port Alberni.

Yes, I was referring to the World Cup year run. Even when we get an opening very very few are taken in JDF, but I get the Politics of it. If they want to try and stop or decrease the massive in river Sockeye net killing machine, we can't catch any, even if we have always been a few grains of sand and other fisheries have been the beach.

 

[wildmanyeah]

One wonders how they can tell a Jack from a Feeder, unless they were all small and had the pre-spawning gold hue or had DNA analysis and perhaps a head tag. You would think they would need some kind of evidence that a small Chinook caught in the ocean at distance from its river is in fact a Jack and not a feeder.

Took me awhile But here is the answer!

"We generally categorize Jacks as Chinook smaller than 50cm nose to fork of the tail"