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So in other words nothing concrete except ask around, brilliant.
Brilliant? What is "brilliant" about being the 44th highest (lowest) vaccinator in the world. What do you or I know about the inner working of the government, and how they botched this considering the lack of any transparency from them. What a "brilliant" comment from you that some sport fisherman should come up with the strategy to actually get the country vaccinated instead of the FULL TIME OFFICIALS who are paid to do it and have clearly failed given the pathetic rates of vaccination in Canada vs every other developed country, and quite a few of the less developed ones. Just "brilliant".
 
Brilliant? What is "brilliant" about being the 44th highest (lowest) vaccinator in the world. What do you or I know about the inner working of the government, and how they botched this considering the lack of any transparency from them. What a "brilliant" comment from you that some sport fisherman should come up with the strategy to actually get the country vaccinated instead of the FULL TIME OFFICIALS who are paid to do it and have clearly failed given the pathetic rates of vaccination in Canada vs every other developed country, and quite a few of the less developed ones. Just "brilliant".
This federal government "botches" everything they touch
 
Just spoke to my uncle, who spent 9 hours trying to book a vaccine appointment for my 94 year old grandmother yesterday, as well as another 3 hours today so far and was unable to get through. This country is a joke!
 
Sounds like people can't listen more like it. 1.4 million calls?

As of the 2016 Census, British Columbia had 42,040 people over the age of 90. With 1.4 million calls for a vaccine appointment so far, that means there's been 33 calls for each eligible person.

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Sounds like people can't listen more like it. 1.4 million calls?

As of the 2016 Census, British Columbia had 42,040 people over the age of 90. With 1.4 million calls for a vaccine appointment so far, that means there's been 33 calls for each eligible person.

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So they should just call once and when they don’t get through, they should just stop? I’d keep trying until I got through.

its like the camping reservations yesterday. Can only book two months in advance, but the website continues to boot you out while you’re trying to book a site. So frustrating and a complete joke
 
Sounds like people can't listen more like it. 1.4 million calls?

As of the 2016 Census, British Columbia had 42,040 people over the age of 90. With 1.4 million calls for a vaccine appointment so far, that means there's been 33 calls for each eligible person.

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In 2021, there must be a more efficient way of booking appointments other than phoning in and talking to a real person.
Back in December, the government knew that this would be a staged vaccination approach. With all the resources and budget that’s available to them, why they haven’t been able to offer an alternative booking method is another sign of incompetency.
 
So they should just call once and when they don’t get through, they should just stop? I’d keep trying until I got through.

its like the camping reservations yesterday. Can only book two months in advance, but the website continues to boot you out while you’re trying to book a site. So frustrating and a complete joke
The main problem on the first day of booking a Covid shot was too many people who were not qualified were phoning in blocking the people who were qualified. Like a 70 year old guy I know who didn't understand his age group was not yet qualified who was holding on the phone for over 5 hours.
 
Honestly...the sad thing there is that we're seriously so short on vaccines AND organizational capacity that we're limiting the initial rollout to people OVER NINETY.

What a freaking embarrassment. If, after all this, you're still under the impression that Canada is competing with global leaders in medicine or government, you're out of your mind. This should be a MASSIVE wake-up call to Canadians, not just about the current PMO idiots, but about our entire system from procurement to implementation. This country needs serious change.

What an absolute mess.
 
The vaccine fiasco by the feds, reminds me of what big Al Davidson (former sports reporter on CKNW) used to say many years ago about the new canuck hockey players, "THEY ALL LOOK GOOD GETTING OF THE BUS"
 
Time for another reminder to back the temperature off a little and keep the politically charged posts out of this thread. If they have something to do with the government's performance related to Covid, all good, but all other political commentary will be deleted.

Brian
 
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Vaccine deliveries are continuing to ramp up. Canada will receive more than 3 million doses of vaccines over the next 3 wks for a total of 8 million doses before the end of March alone.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...19-vaccine-treatment/vaccine-rollout.html#a4a
 

Telus apologizes for vaccine call centre failures in B.C.​

March 9, 2021

Telecommunications giant Telus has apologized to British Columbians for failing to adequately operate the province’s new vaccine appointment hotlines, leading to delays, dropped calls and widespread frustration on launch day.

The company came under fire in the legislature for its failures on Tuesday, with Health Minister Adrian Dix sharply criticizing Telus for not honouring the contract it signed with the province to staff and operate the call centres when they launched Monday.

“The contractor, the provider, Telus, did not meet its contractual obligations and let down people over 90 and let down Indigenous people over 65,” said Dix.

“It is unacceptable. We are taking steps, of course, to beef up our ability to work and to support independently of Telus, and Telus has made commitments that these questions will be resolved — the technical questions and the staffing questions — ASAP.”

The Opposition B.C. Liberals blamed provincial officials for failing to properly oversee the rollout and manage the contract with Telus.

“It is not like this could not have been predicted,” said Opposition leader Shirley Bond. “This is the most important public health effort in our lifetime. It’s clear that the government was not prepared for it, despite having a year to get ready. Instead, it descended into chaos.”

Premier John Horgan said Tuesday he was ““profoundly disappointed” with the first day.

“You can blame whomever you want to blame quite frankly,” he said. “We had a bad day yesterday… we’re taking steps today to correct that.”

Dix said Telus had reassured government officials up until 9 p.m. Sunday that it had allocated the staff and resources necessary to meet an expected crush of demand when vaccination call centres opened Monday morning.

Although only 50,000 seniors older than 90, and indigenous residents older than 65, were eligible to call to make a booking, the lines saw almost 1.7 million calls by early morning. Callers reported long delays, dropped calls and an inability to make appointments. Only approximately 15,000 people were able to make appointments.

“We know how crucial the vaccine roll-out is for British Columbia, and we are sorry for the frustrations that British Columbians have experienced trying to connect to the call centres,” Telus CEO Darren Entwistle said in a statement.

“The provincial government and health authorities asked us to support them, and we have let them down. We can and will do better, and we will make this right.”

“We promised to have 156 agents answering calls at all times to schedule vaccinations and currently, we have exceeded this number with 191 agents answering calls. By this afternoon, we will have more than 250 agents taking calls, for a total of 550 agents working today, and hundreds more being added in real time.”

The Liberals called on the NDP to table government’s contract with Telus. The NDP did not.

Dix would also not provide the value of the Telus contract. He said B.C.’s five health authorities were expecting Telus to take the calls. However, four of those health authorities also had their own staff ready as a backup to run additional call centre lines. That helped pick up demand when Telus failed, said Dix.

Vancouver Coastal Health chose not to form a backup plan and was only able to make 369 appointments on Monday, compared to 2,395 at Island Health, 2,456 at Interior Health, 1,007 at Northern Health and 8,722 at Fraser Health.

Fraser Health was the only health authority to launch with an online booking system. The rest are expected to launch websites by April 12. Liberals demanded to know why the government did not require other health authorities to be ready with websites on launch day, to create a province-wide and consistent approach. Dix said different health authorities took different measures.

Dix said more than 80 people were trained overnight just to help Vancouver Coastal Health handle its call centre failures. He did not say why that health authority was allowed to operate without a backup plan. The chair of Vancouver Coastal Health, Penny Ballem, is also leading the B.C. government’s vaccination efforts and developed the vaccination call centre rollout plan.

“Our team has been working overnight to respond to the significant demand and scale capacity by adding hundreds of additional agents,” Telus said in its statement. “We will ensure that all eligible British Columbians are able to book their vaccine in the timeframe set out by the province.”

Dix said the government will consider other options if Telus cannot step up, but defended the idea of hiring a company that specializes in call centres to handle such an extraordinary rollout.

https://www.cheknews.ca/telus-apologizes-for-vaccine-call-centre-failures-in-b-c-751083/
 
Honestly...the sad thing there is that we're seriously so short on vaccines AND organizational capacity that we're limiting the initial rollout to people OVER NINETY.

What a freaking embarrassment. If, after all this, you're still under the impression that Canada is competing with global leaders in medicine or government, you're out of your mind. This should be a MASSIVE wake-up call to Canadians, not just about the current PMO idiots, but about our entire system from procurement to implementation. This country needs serious change.

What an absolute mess.
Yes it is and embarrassment. How can they not have a functioning web based sign up system, they have had plenty of time to get one set up, or just buy an existing one! In the winter I live in Wake County NC, population about 1.1 Million. They have had a system set up for months, all web based, where you register on line with your details, you are informed when you are eligible to book an appointment automatically, then your are sent an e-mail link to a sign-up genius page, where you pick a slot. You go get the shot, they enter you as having received the first one, you then get another link to sign up genius for shot 2. There is a number to call if you are having trouble with the online functions (less than a 2 minute wait). Sign up genius has a link to their page on the site for other businesses to get the same program! It isn't hard to buy an off the shelf web based solution! Are the BC (and other Canadian health authorities) unable to figure this out? Sign Up genius.png
 
I just had this thought...
What if during times of CRISIS our government shifted and instead of acting as the official "opposition" whoever holds that position should be tasked with dealing with a portion of the response. So instead of always having 50% of our government and population just bitching about things they could play a role in solving the actual problem. So much energy, money and time wasted bickering.

Still Trudeau's fault though. OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
 
Yes it is and embarrassment. How can they not have a functioning web based sign up system, they have had plenty of time to get one set up, or just buy an existing one! In the winter I live in Wake County NC, population about 1.1 Million. They have had a system set up for months, all web based, where you register on line with your details, you are informed when you are eligible to book an appointment automatically, then your are sent an e-mail link to a sign-up genius page, where you pick a slot. You go get the shot, they enter you as having received the first one, you then get another link to sign up genius for shot 2. There is a number to call if you are having trouble with the online functions (less than a 2 minute wait). Sign up genius has a link to their page on the site for other businesses to get the same program! It isn't hard to buy an off the shelf web based solution! Are the BC (and other Canadian health authorities) unable to figure this out? View attachment 62886
Apparently, Fraser Health is the only HA that has an online booking system in place and so far, they’ve processed upwards of 10,000 appointments on their online platform. This is just another example of the left hand not talking to the right....
 
I just had this thought...
What if during times of CRISIS our government shifted and instead of acting as the official "opposition" whoever holds that position should be tasked with dealing with a portion of the response. So instead of always having 50% of our government and population just bitching about things they could play a role in solving the actual problem. So much energy, money and time wasted bickering.

Still Trudeau's fault though. OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
Want to answer, but it would just get deleted.
We have a minority government, why is it acting like a majority dictatorship?
If the 'plan' is so good, show it to us, with the actual data. We can handle it!
 
Want to answer, but it would just get deleted.
We have a minority government, why is it acting like a majority dictatorship?
If the 'plan' is so good, show it to us, with the actual data. We can handle it!
I agree. Would be great to see more action in the meantime. Utilize all this staff we've hired.
 
I am happy to see that the smaller communities are going to be done all at once.
It seemed horrifically inefficient to have the jab centre set up for 10 over 90's, unpacked moved down the road to set up for another handful.
Setting up once and doing hundreds to a couple thousand sounds way more efficient.
I see efficiencies like this as being fair to everyone.
 

Alaska Opens Vaccines To Everyone Over 16​



"Alaska on Tuesday became the first state in the nation to make COVID-19 vaccinations available to anyone over the age of 16 who lives or works in the state."


"In the Northwest Territories, people 18 and up are now eligible to be vaccinated. "
 
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