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The Oxford vaccine with just one dose is showing great efficacy up to 3 months. then needing a booster after that.

papers.ssrn.com

Single Dose Administration, And The Influence Of The Timing Of The Booster Dose On Immunogenicity and Efficacy Of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) Vaccine

Background: The ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine has been approved for emergency use by the UK regulatory authority, MHRA, with a regimen of two standard doses
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Its also been shown effective at reducing the spread

"Vaccine may have substantial reducing effect on transmission of the virus 67% reduction in positive swabs among those vaccinated"
 

Made-in-Canada vaccine announcement was little more than smoke and mirrors​


This week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced two deals designed to produce COVID-19 vaccines on Canadian soil by the end of the year. But even that timeline — which won’t see Canadian-produced vaccines until well after the government’s self-imposed deadline of having enough doses to vaccinate the entire population by September — is unlikely to be met, according to an expert with many years’ experience in the industry.

Canada’s vaccine rollout is a disaster because Trudeau placed too much stock in a bad deal his government made with China that caused him to delay signing deals with Pfizer and Moderna.

financialpost.com

Diane Francis: Made-in-Canada vaccine announcement was little more than smoke and mirrors

Pharma industry veteran says it could take two years for the first vaccine made here to roll out — and by then we may not need it
financialpost.com financialpost.com
 
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Here is a video that confirms what our intentions were for the COVAX initiative back in September 25, 2020.
It makes you wonder why so many have their outrage turned up to high right now. Could be an election coming as per the wishes of the Financial Post as nog's link suggests we do.


It starts at around the 2:30 minute mark.

 
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“Israel bet on closer ties with Pfizer, agreeing to hand over anonymized biometric data in exchange for early doses—a deal that raises serious privacy concerns but has also seen five million shots administered in a month. It’s already seeing sickness declining among those over 60.’

this is what I heard on the radio weeks ago
 
 

How Ottawa utterly botched Canada's COVID vaccine acquisition​


At first, Canada seemed to have vaccine-acquisition under control. The Chinese pharma company CanSino had developed what was then one of the world’s most promising vaccine candidates, and Ottawa struck a deal to have it undergo human trials in Canada, with Canadian laboratories free to reproduce and manufacture the shot.

But only days after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the arrangement, China shut off all shipments of the CanSino vaccine to Canada in what is believed to have been a spiteful retaliation for the continued imprisonment of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver. In hindsight, it may have been a bad idea to bet the country’s pandemic recovery on one of Canada’s top geopolitical enemies.

theprovince.com

How Ottawa utterly botched Canada's COVID vaccine acquisition

Despite spending more money on this pandemic than anyone else, Canada is lagging behind almost every other developed nation in vaccination numbers
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I wouldn't get stressed out on vaccines coming now they are likely not going to work in long term. The virus looks like it made another turn and proves it is smarter than us. New strain in some other countries looks like it has mutated covid strain that may be resistant to some of these vaccines. Still need to be verified, but this one is different.

thehill.com

Study shows UK coronavirus variant with potentially vaccine-resistant mutation

A variant of the coronavirus first found in the United Kingdom has gained a mutation that could make it more resistant to vaccines, according to a new analysis from Public Health England.
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Why do I just feel we are wasting our time here?
 
SpringVelocity said:
I wouldn't get stressed out on vaccines coming now they are likely not going to work in long term. The virus looks like it made another turn and proves it is smarter than us. New strain in some other countries looks like it has mutated covid strain that may be resistant to some of these vaccines. Still need to be verified, but this one is different.

thehill.com

Study shows UK coronavirus variant with potentially vaccine-resistant mutation

A variant of the coronavirus first found in the United Kingdom has gained a mutation that could make it more resistant to vaccines, according to a new analysis from Public Health England.
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Why do I just feel we are wasting our time here?
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This thing is going to run it’s course. All the lock downs in the world aren’t going to stop it. The vast majority are going to be fine the very few aren't such is life and human history and life goes on.

Where we are wasting our time is with these restrictions and lock downs that’s were.
 
There seems to be a push to muddy the waters as of late. It's not helpful that Trudeau messed up with his numbers on Friday but here is the bottom line. No, Canada is not going to take 10 years to rollout it's vaccine program, that's just a nutty headline. The variants are not going to make the vaccines ineffective and just in case the mRNA vaccine companies are on it and have already started to create a new formula to counter. They can supply a booster fairly quickly if need be. The current ones so far seem to be effective enough to keep you out of the hospital and the grave. SV is correct to bring our attention to variants they are not something we want to mess with as the UK has found out. So if we start to see a spread here in BC you can be sure our current measures will tight up even more.

I try my best to watch all the technical briefing and IMHO the one to pay attention to is Procurement Minister Anita Anand.

Getting back to Friday's news. Here is one news source that seems to have better reporting on it. It's from "The Canadian Press" and I usually give them more weight then "Postmedia".

I'll add one more thing... One premiere is sinking fast and it's all hands on deck to help float him. It's a flood the zone with noise strategie.

https://www.abbynews.com/news/sprin...double-in-canada-if-3-more-vaccines-approved/

Spring vaccinations could double in Canada if 3 more vaccines approved​

The number of Canadians vaccinated in the spring could double if Health Canada gives the green light to all three vaccines it is currently reviewing.

But Canada is unlikely to get any doses from those three companies directly until at least April, and confusion about deliveries of vaccines has thrown Canadian confidence in the Liberal government’s vaccine rollout into a tailspin.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau added to the confusion directly Friday when he said at a news conference outside his Rideau Cottage residence that he believed the 20 million doses Canada pre-ordered from AstraZeneca are to be delivered before the end of June.

But he was wrong. Federal officials from Public Services and Procurement Canada clarified there are potentially 20 million more doses coming in the spring but that is a combination of doses from all three companies with vaccines now under review by Health Canada. That includes AstraZeneca, but also Johnson and Johnson and Novavax.

The reviews are in varying stages. AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine is potentially ready for approval next week. Approval of Johnson and Johnson’s vaccine will likely not come until late February or early March and Novavax not until April.

Procurement Minister Anita Anand told the House of Commons health committee Friday afternoon that AstraZeneca’s deliveries will be split up between the second and third quarters of the year.

“That is in our contracts,” Anand said.

Those contracts remain shrouded in secrecy, leaving opposition MPs and provincial premiers irate, as expected vaccine deliveries are delayed and injections slow to a crawl.

The federal government says with the two vaccines already approved — Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna — Canada will get enough doses to vaccinate three million people by the end of March and another 10 million by the end of June. They also say all Canadians who want to get the vaccine will be able to do so by the end of September.

Another 20 million doses could double the spring vaccination goal.

There is little clarity about how many doses provincial and territorial governments can expect to receive beyond next week, let alone what could come in the spring. The numbers have repeatedly changed in the last few weeks as suppliers face production issues and promised deliveries are slashed.

Anand said the contracts do not stipulate week-by-week shipments, but rather set out how many doses are to be sent by the end of each quarter. Pfizer and Moderna have both adjusted their weekly deliveries several times.

Anand said they would only be in breach of contract if they do not make good on their commitment to deliver a total of six million doses — four million from Pfizer-BioNTech and two million from Moderna — by the end of March.

Premiers pushed Trudeau during their weekly call Thursday to at least let them see the contracts in confidence so they could have a better idea what they guarantee for Canadians, and whether there is actually any certainty about deliveries.

“Saskatchewan is relying on the federal government for a consistent supply of vaccines and a consistent of supply of information,” Premier Scott Moe said in a written statement issued Friday. “So far, we are receiving neither.”

Canada passed the one-million mark for vaccinations this week, but it was a milestone barely noticed amid the confusion and bickering about dose deliveries.

The United Kingdom has vaccinated more than 15 per cent of its population already, and the U.S. passed 10 per cent.

Canada has given one dose to less than three per cent, and has fully vaccinated with two doses less than one per cent. It vaccinated between 12,800 and almost 19,000 people a day this past week, while the U.S. is vaccinating more than one million people every day.

Moe said he has often learned about delays in shipments from media reports, and that the provinces have been given weekly delivery estimates of Pfizer shipments through the end of February but nothing for March, and nothing for Moderna after this week.

“This means we are left to co-ordinate complex vaccine rollout plans with minimal information that is constantly changing,” he said.

During the health committee meeting Friday, Conservative MP Pierre Paul-Hus held up copies of contracts AstraZeneca and Pfizer had signed with the European Union, Israel and the United States. The contracts are redacted and were released with the permission of the companies.

“How is it that I got my hands on these major contracts but here in Canada we can’t put our finger on any information,” he said in French.

Anand’s tone was sharp as she said it would be “imprudent if not illegal” for Canada to release the contracts because all of them contain confidentiality clauses, and breaking those contracts could keep vaccines from being delivered.

“We all want vaccines as soon as possible and I’m not going to do anything to jeopardize that,” she said.

Anand said earlier this week she is talking to the companies about the possibility of releasing some of the information contained in the contracts, like other countries have done.
 
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GLG said:
There seems to be a push to muddy the waters as of late. It's not helpful that Trudeau messed up with his numbers on Friday but here is the bottom line. No, Canada is not going to take 10 years to rollout it's vaccine program, that's just a nutty headline. The variants are not going to make the vaccines ineffective and just in case the mRNA vaccine companies are on it and have already started to create a new formula to counter. They can supply a booster fairly quickly if need be. The current ones so far seem to be effective enough to keep you out of the hospital and the grave. SV is correct to bring our attention to variants they are not something we want to mess with as the UK has found out. So if we start to see a spread here in BC you can be sure our current measures will tight up even more.

I try my best to watch all the technical briefing and IMHO the one to pay attention to is Procurement Minister Anita Anand.

Getting back to Friday's news. Here is one news source that seems to have better reporting on it. It's from "The Canadian Press" and I usually give them more weight then "Postmedia".

I'll add one more thing... One premiere is sinking fast and it's all hands on deck to help float him. It's a flood the zone with noise strategie.

https://www.abbynews.com/news/sprin...double-in-canada-if-3-more-vaccines-approved/

Spring vaccinations could double in Canada if 3 more vaccines approved​

The number of Canadians vaccinated in the spring could double if Health Canada gives the green light to all three vaccines it is currently reviewing.

But Canada is unlikely to get any doses from those three companies directly until at least April, and confusion about deliveries of vaccines has thrown Canadian confidence in the Liberal government’s vaccine rollout into a tailspin.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau added to the confusion directly Friday when he said at a news conference outside his Rideau Cottage residence that he believed the 20 million doses Canada pre-ordered from AstraZeneca are to be delivered before the end of June.

But he was wrong. Federal officials from Public Services and Procurement Canada clarified there are potentially 20 million more doses coming in the spring but that is a combination of doses from all three companies with vaccines now under review by Health Canada. That includes AstraZeneca, but also Johnson and Johnson and Novavax.

The reviews are in varying stages. AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine is potentially ready for approval next week. Approval of Johnson and Johnson’s vaccine will likely not come until late February or early March and Novavax not until April.

Procurement Minister Anita Anand told the House of Commons health committee Friday afternoon that AstraZeneca’s deliveries will be split up between the second and third quarters of the year.

“That is in our contracts,” Anand said.

Those contracts remain shrouded in secrecy, leaving opposition MPs and provincial premiers irate, as expected vaccine deliveries are delayed and injections slow to a crawl.

The federal government says with the two vaccines already approved — Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna — Canada will get enough doses to vaccinate three million people by the end of March and another 10 million by the end of June. They also say all Canadians who want to get the vaccine will be able to do so by the end of September.

Another 20 million doses could double the spring vaccination goal.

There is little clarity about how many doses provincial and territorial governments can expect to receive beyond next week, let alone what could come in the spring. The numbers have repeatedly changed in the last few weeks as suppliers face production issues and promised deliveries are slashed.

Anand said the contracts do not stipulate week-by-week shipments, but rather set out how many doses are to be sent by the end of each quarter. Pfizer and Moderna have both adjusted their weekly deliveries several times.

Anand said they would only be in breach of contract if they do not make good on their commitment to deliver a total of six million doses — four million from Pfizer-BioNTech and two million from Moderna — by the end of March.

Premiers pushed Trudeau during their weekly call Thursday to at least let them see the contracts in confidence so they could have a better idea what they guarantee for Canadians, and whether there is actually any certainty about deliveries.

“Saskatchewan is relying on the federal government for a consistent supply of vaccines and a consistent of supply of information,” Premier Scott Moe said in a written statement issued Friday. “So far, we are receiving neither.”

Canada passed the one-million mark for vaccinations this week, but it was a milestone barely noticed amid the confusion and bickering about dose deliveries.

The United Kingdom has vaccinated more than 15 per cent of its population already, and the U.S. passed 10 per cent.

Canada has given one dose to less than three per cent, and has fully vaccinated with two doses less than one per cent. It vaccinated between 12,800 and almost 19,000 people a day this past week, while the U.S. is vaccinating more than one million people every day.

Moe said he has often learned about delays in shipments from media reports, and that the provinces have been given weekly delivery estimates of Pfizer shipments through the end of February but nothing for March, and nothing for Moderna after this week.

“This means we are left to co-ordinate complex vaccine rollout plans with minimal information that is constantly changing,” he said.

During the health committee meeting Friday, Conservative MP Pierre Paul-Hus held up copies of contracts AstraZeneca and Pfizer had signed with the European Union, Israel and the United States. The contracts are redacted and were released with the permission of the companies.

“How is it that I got my hands on these major contracts but here in Canada we can’t put our finger on any information,” he said in French.

Anand’s tone was sharp as she said it would be “imprudent if not illegal” for Canada to release the contracts because all of them contain confidentiality clauses, and breaking those contracts could keep vaccines from being delivered.

“We all want vaccines as soon as possible and I’m not going to do anything to jeopardize that,” she said.

Anand said earlier this week she is talking to the companies about the possibility of releasing some of the information contained in the contracts, like other countries have done.
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I appreciate that it is important to not let political bias blind you, and that some people will step in dog crap at the park and blame Trudeau. But how can you defend him on his COVID response? Sorry for delving into politics, but Trudeaus COVID response has been nothing more than a failure. We have the highest unemployment in the G7, We’re behind most other developed nations in vaccinations, and most provinces are in their highest levels of restrictions since the pandemic started. We have this track record, while incurring the highest debt to GDP ratio of any other developed nation on the planet!
Again sorry for getting into politics but I feel this is important and needed to be said.
 
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