wildmanyeah
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im sure some of it will come out in the news. Pretty sad i heard one of the nurses is in ICU.
here is the outbreak
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/outbreak-at-l...-vancouver-now-at-22-covid-19-cases-1.4987538
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im sure some of it will come out in the news. Pretty sad i heard one of the nurses is in ICU.
here is the outbreak
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/outbreak-at-l...-vancouver-now-at-22-covid-19-cases-1.4987538
ReelSlim
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The draw bridge will stay up until the ransom is paid in full...and then some.
wildmanyeah
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Well the BC NDP did adopt the UN resolution and Bonni Henry has consistently said they have the right to do what's best for their people and territories. Sometimes when you make the bed you have to sleep in it.
“The Premier cannot forget our free, prior and informed consent over our territories, and that we have not given our consent to open up the province,” said Judith Sayers, president of the Nuuchah-nulth Tribal Council in a release Wednesday.
bMcN
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Graphical displays of how the virus spread through the US:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Interesting times ahead of us for sure. I saw Judith Reyes on the Global New this morning, saying “each FN territory is in charge of restricting access to their land during the COVID time”. Horgy’s encouraging BC people to travel inside the province. I guess we will see how he’s going to deal with Judith or the rest of the BC residents over the next few days.
GLG
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In Phase 3 people can take part in respectful and safe travel in BC. Dr. Bonnie Henry, our Provincial Health Officer, has laid out travel guidelines for everyone travelling to and within BC. Practice good travel manners as you explore BC. And if you feel sick, please stay home.
Find out more here:
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...-recovery/covid-19-provincial-support/phase-3
Find out more here:
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...-recovery/covid-19-provincial-support/phase-3
islandboy
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islandboy
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My second cousin is a Registered respiratory therapist in Oregon:
‘I don’t wear a mask for the same reason I don’t wear underwear: Things gotta breathe.’ — Anti-maskers in Florida are warning of satanism, pedophilia, and even death if public health policies are enforced
ok, so you can’t breathe in your mask? Try breathing with Covid you morons. As someone who is in direct care of patients with Covid, watching them gasp for air looks completely different than watching you breathe in your mask. They can’t breathe. I can’t stand people right now.This is definitely worth a watch
go Florida9,000 cases on Thursday
sly_karma
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If you're looking for a jurisdiction that got it right in terms of controlling the spread without imposing draconian restrictions on individual freedom or complete shutdown of the economy, look no further than your own back yard. Looking worldwide, the team in BC has found a good balance.
- no Stay At Home orders
- no compulsory mask orders
- assembly restrictions never lower than 50; some countries (eg, Australia) had orders of max gathering of 2 persons
- no closure of borders with neighbouring provinces
- no intra-provincial travel restrictions (non essential travel discouraged, but not actually prohibited)
- no contact tracing app mandated (so far at least)
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- health/medical
- education
- finance/insurance
- mining
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islandboy
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ILHG
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Folks this post and link I am sharing is not about pushing ones position on the current crisis we find ourselves in. This page has been about sharing credible data & I think this is important. There is another side of the effects from this lockdown & we need to understand it. In Alberta the vast majority of deaths have been over the age of 83. The average life span in Alberta is 82...
This young man is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to collateral damage.
We need to be able to look back and learn from mistakes made. If we see a second wave we need to respond differently than the first time.
I'm would like to hear pepole thoughts on this. Politics aside please.
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/c...d-19/wcm/e84e300c-1902-4a89-ad2c-beaa856928cd
This young man is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to collateral damage.
We need to be able to look back and learn from mistakes made. If we see a second wave we need to respond differently than the first time.
I'm would like to hear pepole thoughts on this. Politics aside please.
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/c...d-19/wcm/e84e300c-1902-4a89-ad2c-beaa856928cd
Pineapple Express
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Stories like this are bound to appear, and numerous other ones probably don't appear due to family request for privacy (think suicides here). This is sad, there's no doubt about it. There's always is going to be some trade off when public policy is involved and obviously some people are going to feel wronged and some people are going to suffer. This is the reality of our society, and also our medical system. No matter how good our doctors and medical system is there will still be people dying everyday from all sorts of causes.
What I don't understand is why some groups of people keep talking about the age of the COVID patients and deaths. Does a person's old age make them less worthy of staying in good health and living their fullest life? I'm really struggling with this topic, where people keep making these vague references to the bulk of the deaths being old people. Where's the compassion there?
I’m with you on that. I guess it depends on our definition of human’s value - is the value of a human in being just a GDP contributor or something beyond that....
SpringVelocity
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I still don't agree with this its an old person disease, so lets let those ones die and we can keep working. Alberta's financial problem goes way beyond Covid. I totally get why they are frustrated. Canada has completely abandoned oil industry. The US is screwing them, and this government. If the industry was doing better I bet the conversation would be different. Just my view.
COVID is serious illness one just has too look at the US of what not to do. COVID is here but we are all suppressing it with our actions every day. If we don't want a second wave then we have to behave responsibly. If we don't act possibility it will get shut down, and no businesses want that. I sure don't.
COVID is serious illness one just has too look at the US of what not to do. COVID is here but we are all suppressing it with our actions every day. If we don't want a second wave then we have to behave responsibly. If we don't act possibility it will get shut down, and no businesses want that. I sure don't.
Clearly, those people aged 83 and above who died from Covid19 didn't die at 82 so that particular statistic, in spite of Jason Kenny spouting to justify his governments lack of action, is irrelevant in this situation. A life is as valuable at 85 or 90 as it is at 60.
barkerfam
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This is not just a covid issue. an ENORMOUS amount of money is spent on the last 100 days of life. Tough societal questions. As a practicing orthopedic surgeon, questions to treat/how to treat/not treat are often based on the patients general health. Not usually on their age alone. All 50 year olds are not the same, just as all 83 year olds are not the same. Trying to make decisions on quality of life after treatment versus no treatment is difficult. Even harder if economics is considered. There is not infinite money for healthcare.
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