Air Rifle questions

Maybe whack them with a paint ball pellet? If that doesn't discourage them then at least they'll be pretty colours. :D
 
spring fever said:
Just an excellent post and link FA!! If you follow FA's link and read the whole of para 1-shows you that Prawn Stars air rifle is really classified as a firearm with all the fun that entails in Canada!
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So if it is over 500 fps you need a PAL just like any other long gun. If purchased in Canada no big deal there I think.
 
You better be on really good terms with ALL of your neighbours or the RCMP will be at your door ASAP and discharge of air rifles is generally illegal in the majority of residential areas in Canada.--

Dave S said:
Hi guys, I did look into the regulations regarding rifles and air guns and found that info that FA posted. It seems lots of air guns stay just under 500fps but I haven't seen much in the way of muzzle energy ratings. I live in a residential neighborhood so a real firearm is not an option. I don't mind the idea of just hurting them enough to make em find a new place to set up camp.
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MRACER said:
You better be on really good terms with ALL of your neighbours or the RCMP will be at your door ASAP and discharge of air rifles is generally illegal in the majority of residential areas in Canada.--
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Well ****,I didn't know this. I have played with pellet guns in backyards quite a bit. My buddies kids bring one over often to do target shooting in the backyard. Time to look further into this. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Dave S said:
Is it illegal to shoot bow and arrow or paintball gun in backyard?
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Probably not. However shooting at a target, and trying to intentionally wound or kill an animal is a bit different. Shooting anything at an animal with the intent to hurt it is wrong. Either kill it, or leave it. I'm not sure how this is any different then the poachers you read on the news that shoot residential deer with cross bows because they are pests.
 
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I grabbed this post of yours from the grizzly debate a while back. If you do kill the Raccoon do you plan on eating it?

Dave S said:
Ok Sitka, I'll do you the honors of summarizing why I am against the grizzly hunt in it's current state. Before I do, let me say that I fully support hunters and hunting. Have lots of friends and family that hunt. In fact, since moving to the island, I have thought about getting into it. I would love to bring home some deer meat for the freezer.

Ok, here we go:

-it's wasteful and does not respect the animal. IMO the true purpose of hunting was to kill an animal for harvest of everything useful. That includes the meat. I don't buy the story that it is not suitable for human consumption. Most protein we eat is full of bacteria, worms, viruses. That's why we cook it. Not to mention that a lot of hunters admit to eating grizzly meat, so it can't be that bad. Anybody that is not interested in the meat, is just looking add to there trophy room, boost their ego, or just to shoot things to fulfill some desire I am unaware of.

-estimated numbers of grizzly population are always fluctuating. (can't say I have a lot of confidence in the governments techniques for estimating things) Combine that with the slow reproducing grizzly, and hunters always targeting the large, sexually mature bears, it's makes the grizzly a high risk for quick declines in population. If population and mortality numbers are monitored closely, that would solve this. I've seen how our government handles some of our resources, and I would just hate to see them mess up the grizzly populations too.


Hunters are now a minority in our country, and it is important for them to understand this.
If they continue to say that ethics should not factor into the management of the wildlife that all canadians share, then I suspect they will lose support from the "non-hunters" (as you guys call us). I think the days are numbered where it is acceptable to go around killing wildlife and leaving the carcass or whole animal where it falls. I understand the argument that nature will find a use for the carcass, but there are simply too many hunters and not enough wildlife to allow this to continue to be sustainable. Some hunters have the best of ethics when it comes to hunting, and I fully support them and their cause. I suspect that most others will too. It's the guys that say without a bat of the eye that they will take out a pack of wolves and leave the bodies where they drop. These are the type that might ruin it for the rest.

I will have your back if you hunt for the right reasons, hunt with ethics, and respect nature.

Just one guys thoughts on this.

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Dave- when I was a kid I could walk down main street with my Cooey .22 and no one blinked-Before I could walk, I could crawl with my Red Ryder BB gun- LOL Sadly, the times they are a changing....

Dave S said:
Well ****,I didn't know this. I have played with pellet guns in backyards quite a bit. My buddies kids bring one over often to do target shooting in the backyard. Time to look further into this. Thanks for the heads up.
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Go to this site http://www.dlairgun.com/ they have a large stock of airguns that could assist you in your efforts to find some info on rifles. They are good folks to deal with.
 
SophiaB said:
I grabbed this post of yours from the grizzly debate a while back. If you do kill the Raccoon do you plan on eating it?
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Good question. I want to know about the rat stew as well lol.


Dave with what ever your trying to do....please don't try killing a raccoon with a pellet gun. A .22 rimfire is the very bare minimum for these critters. They are tough!!!
 
Raccoons can be very aggressive you would only be pushing his button with a pellet gun. The he might want to lay some hurt on you, and they are agile and fast.
 
Thanks for all the insight, knowledge, and feedback guys. I have heard it all and will be going a different route now. Live trap and relocate is what I'm thinking.

Oh, and I don't want to get into a debate about the killing of wild animals. Here's my thoughts on this though. I know I voiced my opinion regarding grizzly trophy hunting, but this is different IMO. It's about protecting property, family, and pets. That is all.
 
Be prepared, even though they are caught in a humane live trap the damage they can do to themselves trying to escape can be very upsetting.
 
Oh and I should note, out of this 4 pack of coons, 2 of the bigger ones are not really afraid of me. I have had 3 stand offs with them with either a hockey stick or spear in hand. I am able to get within 5' of them. They've got to go IMO.
 
SophiaB:- Awhile back I read a list of critters (and birds) that could be legally killed within city limits....as they come under the "pest" designation.

The method used to kill them is another story......would have to be within legal parmeters....

I remember when I read it there were species on there that surprised me....

Have to dig around a bit to see if I can pull it up.....
 
SophiaB said:
I grabbed this post of yours from the grizzly debate a while back. If you do kill the Raccoon do you plan on eating it?
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Ha, Dave, I can't wait to see you BBQ up this Racoon!

And, go look up the nature of things doc on raccoons before you go killing it; it won't get rid of the problem and one will take its place. The vacant shed next door is the problem, not the raccoon.
 
SophiaB said:
I grabbed this post of yours from the grizzly debate a while back. If you do kill the Raccoon do you plan on eating it?
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Ha, Dave, I can't wait to see you BBQ up this Racoon!

And, go look up the nature of things doc on raccoons before you go killing it; it won't get rid of the problem and one will take its place. The vacant shed next door is the problem, not the raccoon.
 
Dave S said:
I am thinking about picking up one of these air rifles used for $50.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brow...5029P/Air+Rifle,+Hunt+Combo+Kit.jsp?locale=en

I have had bb guns in the past, but only used it for target shooting. This rifle was to get into some small game hunting, and some pest control. Will this gun have enough power to take out raccoons? Will be close range.....5-20 yards.

Is there anything I need to look at before buying?
What should I use to test it's power and speed is as advertised?

Much thanks,
Dave
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No that gun will not kill a raccoon.
It's only 495 FPS. Not enough.
Maximum crow sized animals.
 
Andrew P said:
Ha, Dave, I can't wait to see you BBQ up this Racoon!

And, go look up the nature of things doc on raccoons before you go killing it; it won't get rid of the problem and one will take its place. The vacant shed next door is the problem, not the raccoon.
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I was thinking of donating it to one of the chinese food joints you frequent. Enjoy!

Just watch the 45 minute video by Nature of Things. It has taught me a few things about these animals. Their urban populations are skyrocketing, they have very few predators to control their numbers. They carry a nasty parasite in their feces that is super resilient, can go air born once dry, and attacks humans, horses, and dogs neurological systems, sometimes leading to death. I also learned that they don't know what the territory size is of raccoons, so the concerns with relocating because of invading other raccoons territory is not substantiated.

I have already boarded up some of the windows of my neighbors crumbling shed, next is to sheet over the big caved in section of roof. Also spraying a good amount of ammonia all around our property. I read that bugs them. I am still not against capturing these things and shipping them off to Sooke. (just kidding guys) actually Metchosin loves their cute little coons so they can have these too........What's your address KK? :p
 
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