Action Required - Potential Fin FIsh Closure from Long Beach to Swiftsure for SRKW

[SpringVelocity]

We have been screwed over by these environmental groups , I think it’s time we support the pipeline publicly and see if DFO and feds help us.

And he just got it! That's the first post that connected the dots. Before I saw this new document I had thought we were saving southern Orcas. Then when it wasn't just about southern but going aftern northern population that is stable u connect the dots. Think big picture and you will see it has everything to do with pipeline agenda. If you give us this...then we will give you that. Not Sukuki think way higher.

 

[tekrunr]

Thanks for the alert. The real fear is that once again the DFO are pursuing an "easy visibility win" over a "long term science based win". They are again squandering an opportunity to use visibilty to protect salmon rearing habitat and give them enough political courage to monitor and enforce conservation measures around In-River netting. Sad part is the further erosion of any confidence in DFO by us and the science community.

 

[Nigels]

I have submitted my form.
There is absolutely no proof that recreational fishing is responsible for decline in fish stocks. Have meaningful statistics ever been gathered from rec fishermen, no? So it is wrong to lump them in with Commercial and First Nations. Let the authorities do whatever is right with Commercial and First nations to preserve stocks but Rec fishermen should be exempt.
A lawyer should be employed now to fight for this exemption.

 

[fish brain]

That map if accurate is insane. Somebody should add the current otter point to east point closure on there as well to paint a clearer picture of how much of the coast they are proposing to shut down.

I commented last time, didn't even get a response. The comments are a procedural matter only - they don't care.

Like this? From page 61 of the Killer Whale Recovery Strategy http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/consul...rds/docs/2018-killer-whales-epaulards-eng.pdf

 

[Kita Carol]

thanks for link, I've commented, and will make sure my hubby does too...

 

[swimmingwiththefishes]

We have been screwed over by these environmental groups , I think it’s time we support the pipeline publicly and see if DFO and feds help us.

I think this is a fair negotiating tactic that should be used by SFI and other groups.Dont support the pipeline but a lot of local people are getting screwed by these regs and this needs to be recognized and acknowledged.

 

[fishbadger]

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They have really jumped the shark with this one. Just a crazy notion. Your DFG is even more F'd up than ours (Washington state) if they are even considering this. Would surely no longer see any more of my tourism dollars if this amended concept passes.

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[uclueletcharters]

Doesn't appear to be a collaborative effort when I see nets all over the rivers. May not help this year for killer whale food but future returns numbers would be higher and it would make a difference if everyone gave a bit just not one sector giving almost everything.

 

[cammer]

its been my observations that every sports fisherman should belong to a unified union, every salt and freshwater license should have a dollar directed to a union due and then elect a president , all the clubs on both sides can be operating as usual but would fall under the overall union membership so we can at least have a decent bargaining / lobbying power. We are being eroded bit by bit and like ealier posts have said we are easier pickings separated as we are, this would need political approval to get that into law but its high time we do this

 

[terrin]

its been my observations that every sports fisherman should belong to a unified union, every salt and freshwater license should have a dollar directed to a union due and then elect a president , all the clubs on both sides can be operating as usual but would fall under the overall union membership so we can at least have a decent bargaining / lobbying power. We are being eroded bit by bit and like ealier posts have said we are easier pickings separated as we are, this would need political approval to get that into law but its high time we do this

Relying on the Feds to help us organize as one group will never happen but the Politics of the various clubs can unite under an umbrella organization with idea of being our official lobbyist. I'm sure if such a group was put forward they could collect yearly dues off all their individual members in return for the discount they will recieve at the participating sponsoring tackle and outdoor shops upon presenting their valid membership card.

 

[Floater]

Time for some people to rethink their support for the pseudo science green mafia.

Pipeline conspiracy is just nuts, this has nothing to do with that. Come on.

 

[spoiler]

Relying on the Feds to help us organize as one group will never happen but the Politics of the various clubs can unite under an umbrella organization with idea of being our official lobbyist. I'm sure if such a group was put forward they could collect yearly dues off all their individual members in return for the discount they will recieve at the participating sponsoring tackle and outdoor shops upon presenting their valid membership card.

I just submitted my comment but have the distinct feeling it will be falling on deaf ears. I told them that maybe they should focus on the Fraser River Chinook Salmon before it becomes an endangered species if it isn't already. I also explained how their decisions would effect the local economies in many small coastal communities and create havoc in a multi-billion dollar industry.
In my opinion all sportfishermen, charter boat, lodge owners and everyone else living in small coastal towns that will be effected by DFO's proposed changes need to band together as one huge voice. This includes the wealthy business men, Lawyers and corporate groups I see at all the high-end lodges. Maybe if there's enough noise from one large group they will hear us all the way in Ottawa!

 

[walleyes]

Time for some people to rethink their support for the pseudo science green mafia.

Pipeline conspiracy is just nuts, this has nothing to do with that. Come on.

Lol, unreal isn't it.

If I were you guys I'd vote Green Party next time, they'll fix it for you, honest.

 

[SpringVelocity]

Guys we were talking about this morning. Please fill in your response and make sure you read the document.

I am going to personally write a letter and send it to our Fisheries minister and DFO regional director Rebecca Reid on top of filling out what was posted above. I suggest you do the same as they need to here from ALL OF US. My main points in my letter will be:

1. How dare DFO implement a consultation process when we our in summer fishing season, and the sport fishing industry is trying to make a living. Many guides, lodges and anglers are out there right now having to read that their areas are being proposed to be closed in the busy season.

2. How dare DFO suggest a larger closure in addition to southern JDF when we are still all trying to understand the economic impact of the Sooke and Pender island fisheries. Especially the financial damage to businesses within Sooke Area 20 fishery this summer.

3. Has DFO really considered the economic and social impacts of the forage zones closures in the Sooke and Pender Island areas being closed? Impacts to marinas, guides, local economy, restaurants, tourism, tackle shops etc. Salmon enhancement fundraisers cancelled.

4. What is the purpose of the consultation process from DFO if it will just go against the SFAB process as it did with the JDF/Pender forage closure areas?

Send your letters to :

min@dfo-mpo.gc.ca , Fisheries minister Dominic Leblanc
Rebecca.Reid@dfo-mpo.gc.ca , Regional Director General for Fisheries and Oceans Canada

The liberals were all about mid class first and jobs. So make sure you let them know how you feel about what these closures will do financially to our sector, and the middle class businesses that depend on it.

 

[SpringVelocity]

Lol, unreal isn't it.

If I were you guys I'd vote Green Party next time, they'll fix it for you, honest.

Stirring it up in here I see. Can we not start to derail the thread like the oil ones. Maybe send letters off or you may be out of luck going to Sooke next year. Actually I have a better idea why not send the minister a letter telling him how much you spend when you take your yearly trip to Sooke from Alberta. Maybe you can tell your buddies in Alberta to do the same. Emails are above.

 

[walleyes]

When I see the copy of your letter supporting my industry I'll send mine supporting yours and your community, how's that. Until then I'll just head to the west side and spend my 10 grand this year makes me no difference.

Karmas a ***** isn't it.

 

[SpringVelocity]

When I see the copy of your letter supporting my industry I'll send mine supporting yours and your community, how's that. Until then I'll just head to the west side and spend my 10 grand this year makes me no difference.

Karmas a ***** isn't it.

Everyone ignore the post to derail and send the letters. Posts like this are the last thing we need right now. Thanks guys. Walleyes please grow up. If that is really what you think of community in Sooke then its good you don't come. I know many don't share the same feeling. The communities from Pender Island, Sooke upwards too Tofino are important. I am sorry you are trying to tie in an oil thread argument in here. Carry on...

 

[walleyes]

Everyone ignore the post to derail and send the letters. Posts like this are the last thing we need right now. Thanks guys. Walleyes please grow up. If that is really what you think of community in Sooke then its good you don't come. I know many don't share the same feeling. The communities from Pender Island, Sooke upwards too Tofino are important. I am sorry you are trying to tie in an oil thread argument in here. Carry on...

I'm not trying to derail it all, just bringing up the obvious. What did you people think would happen with the members of parliament that you all elected there, think about that would you. How can you look for support from Albertans with what is going on there right now in regards to the industry that supports our communities and the way some of you people support us, think about that would you. I have a lot of friends in the Sooke/Victoria area and business acquaintances as well and I do feel for them. But not once did I see any support from them over my industry issues, not once. We are all Canadians and should support each other in all these causes, but so many of you would have nothing of the sort. Your choices are based on emotion and the left, green agenda, you asked for it,, deal with it !!

 

[Birdsnest]

We have been screwed over by these environmental groups , I think it’s time we support the pipeline publicly and see if DFO and feds help us.

Well its time(may be too late) to accept some risk for the lifestyles we live here on the coast. It seems that we are cozied right up with science that is inconclusive and the precautionary principle has become paramount with anything going on in the ocean.

The salmon farming debate is a text-book example of what this is going to look like for the sport fishing industry. While there are just as many salmon declines where there are and aren't salmon farms, the public has been educated thoroughly via US funded campaigns to loath fish farming and its working well, but it isn't based on any solid evidence. This precautionary approach is always based on science which foundation is "might",and "maybe's. Now the industry's fate is being handed to the first nations for approval where science may not have to be the deciding factor. And here we are facing sports closures on science that is not solid or incomplete. Why anyone never took a step back and looked at the whole picture long before now is beyond me. Anyway, here we are and it sucks but the standards for decision making have been set. Its so easy to be anti everything and now we are going to pay for it.

Another thing to watch out for I believe is proportional representation.

Cant help to notice all the forum specialists(anti everything types) missing from this topic. Not surprised.

Its hard for me to disagree with walleyes sentiments above.

 

[ryanb]

Our politicians are running amuck! On the one side we have lunatics appealing to their mindless green sentiment base. I say sentiment because even the green base is anything but green. Let's see the government take away their gas consuming cars and gas burning central heating and see just how green these voters really are. Not at ALL, not a one of them!

On the other side we have conservatives that are pro business but basically completely ignore the environment and cut funding for conservation.

Politicians can only be as effective as their voting base allows them to be, which is why we are completely screwed!