Wage subsidy program

[jeffywestcoast]

Just wanted to share my experience with this program.. Im sure for some people it has lead to fulltime employment, but from my personal experience it wasn't the case... No names will be mentioned as it is not my intention to discredit any employer.. I merely want to share my experience with this program... Here goes.. Employee A gets directed to the the wage subsidy program.. Employer A gets the wages of said employee half paid by the gov... So the idea is too have the employee trained to do the job properly creating fulltime employment .. This is where the problem is.. Employer A takes full advantage of the half priced worker and keeps him employed till the end of the subsidy.. Then lays off said employee.. Due to lack of work...fine it happens.. But then a month later work picks up and rather then hiring back Employee A , Employer A simply picks another employee and starts him in the wage subsidy program and receives half the wages paid by the gov... My point?? The system doesn't work .. Corruption at the worst level... Taking advantage of gov program designed to re-introduce people into the workforce and instead turn them out like a cheap trick... Disgusting... (End rant [emoji35][emoji53])


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[fishin solo]

How long does subsidy last for the employer?


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[Daveroo]

Almost as bad as the unpaid intern program... Another employment program with good intentions but full of abuse.

 

[jeffywestcoast]

How long does subsidy last for the employer?


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I think for three months.. Or until trained.... Im sure being an employer isn't easy and you would be looking for any break you could get but thats shady as hell to me.. Just sayin.., been almost ten years since i was involved in this program. Being a seasonal employee (oilfield) i had this program offered to me again it brought it all back...


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[Time]

All kinds of loopholes in programs like that, but it got me into an apprenticeship in the trades years ago.
Problem is not with the program, but with the monitoring thereof.
If you, as an experienced and qualified employee were offered employment based on the availability of a subsidy offered by the government and intended for new untrained inexperienced employees, then you have a prospective employer trying to milk the system.
For which they are only acting rationally (economically speaking), i.e., in their self interest.
If a company has a repetitive pattern of hiring, then laying off employees at the end of the subsidy period, then they should not be entitled to participate.
The difficulty is showing/proving intent to abuse the program. As you said, stuff and conditions can change, often quickly as in the collapse of oil prices.

But, given what I'm hearing from the oil patch , you may have to become a trainee again, as long as you aren't fibbing on the forms.
Wish you luck.

 

[kaelc]

There are always a few bad examples to any program. I know people who have started their new career with a wage subsidy and been able to eventually double their income. Our EI money is often squandered but the wage subsidies are closely monitored and follewed up on. While the jobs grant in the other hand turned primarily into a training program for the employed and virtually didnt help any unemployed people.

 

[jeffywestcoast]

All kinds of loopholes in programs like that, but it got me into an apprenticeship in the trades years ago.
Problem is not with the program, but with the monitoring thereof.
If you, as an experienced and qualified employee were offered employment based on the availability of a subsidy offered by the government and intended for new untrained inexperienced employees, then you have a prospective employer trying to milk the system.
For which they are only acting rationally (economically speaking), i.e., in their self interest.
If a company has a repetitive pattern of hiring, then laying off employees at the end of the subsidy period, then they should not be entitled to participate.
The difficulty is showing/proving intent to abuse the program. As you said, stuff and conditions can change, often quickly as in the collapse of oil prices.

But, given what I'm hearing from the oil patch , you may have to become a trainee again, as long as you aren't fibbing on the forms.
Wish you luck.

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[jeffywestcoast]

But, given what I'm hearing from the oil patch , you may have to become a trainee again, as long as you aren't fibbing on the forms.
Wish you luck.[/QUOTE]
It's not all doom and gloom.. Crude oil prices may take a while to recover but it is already on its way... Looking into training to upgrade my crane certification in hopes to find something on the island...


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