Whats frustrating is how overly passionate a lot of the Suzuki and Sierra type people are. Often these people have zero actual experience in the issue they are so strongly trying to force on people. That’s the problem we face, these people are so into there own beliefs or beliefs of which ever green group the are involved with they force to anyone who will listen like it or not. Guess what I’m trying to say is there are massive globally funded groups with huge followers that specializes in tying to push there beliefs through, ie logging, fishing, hunting, eating meat. I bet such a tiny fraction actually have any first hand knowledge of what they are so passionately fighting against. Most likely enjoy most of life’s convenience like living in wood houses, eating sushi that sort of thing. On the otherside however, how many people that have summer cottages and boats along the coast probably aren’t even aware there’s groups out there trying to shut down a pass time they may enjoy