Surge brake lock out
- Thread starter MikePA
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Coyote Spooner
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You removed the brakes and did replace them?
Is your rig, on the trailer, over 3000lbs?
Is your rig, on the trailer, over 3000lbs?
MikePA
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Didn't replace them. They corrode so quickly. Boat is around 3500 I'd think. Not required until 6000lbs.
Fishwhistler
Active Member
I drilled a 1/2 hole through mine and bolted it solid works great
MikePA
Well-Known Member
Is yours similar to mine? Where did you drill the bolt?
RiverBoy
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where did you read that? i read different but i hope your right. im in the exact same situation as you. annoying surge with garbage brakes. DE 185.
N2013
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I think it’s anything over 3000lbs, brakes are required.
MikePA
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Geeze, you're right... Damnit. What the hell was I reading.
N2013
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So the tow vehicle would have to weigh a minimum 6000 lbs if the trailer/load weight was 3000lbs is how I read it.
N2013
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Maybe CVSE a call for clarification. It’s almost as bad a DFO regs with their convoluted garble.
RevyG
Crew Member
I use this and it works great, way better than trying to get that factory key to stay in place and is always there because you magnet it to the trailer
sudsy
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Hey guys, surge brakes for anything over 3086 lbs -also, if your over 6128lbs it needs to be electric over hydraulic ( controlled by the driver through a brake controller).
Nobody is running around checking but If you were ever in an accident you could be liable through ICBC when they check out your trailer and find that you have disabled the brakes. Lots of guys do it, but also there are tons of guys driving around overweight with campers etc.....comes down to how you feel about breaking the law and what your willing to live with I guess? If your using drum brakes I highly recommend upgrading to disk, they will all rust out - some faster tha others - drum brakes in my experience seize over thr winter with minimal use where as disk scrape off and reveal fresh metal - easier to work on and inspect.
To answer your original question, you can buy a half moon piece that blocks the cylinder from pushing back as ( see zuktayler above)
Nobody is running around checking but If you were ever in an accident you could be liable through ICBC when they check out your trailer and find that you have disabled the brakes. Lots of guys do it, but also there are tons of guys driving around overweight with campers etc.....comes down to how you feel about breaking the law and what your willing to live with I guess? If your using drum brakes I highly recommend upgrading to disk, they will all rust out - some faster tha others - drum brakes in my experience seize over thr winter with minimal use where as disk scrape off and reveal fresh metal - easier to work on and inspect.
To answer your original question, you can buy a half moon piece that blocks the cylinder from pushing back as ( see zuktayler above)
RiverBoy
Well-Known Member
thanks for this. i was actually putting together a pile of parts then i checked out my surge actuator a little closer and realized the reservoir tank was full of rusty water. the likelihood of it working now is slim to none. i took all the parts back until i could strip it and deal properly . dont have the. $$$ at the moment.
RiverBoy
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Good point on the ICBC thing. being a former insurance contractor i can tell you the companies will do anything in their power to have to pay out.
it’s also worth noting my neighbour stripped all his EOH brakes with oil bath hubs etc off his tandem axle trailer and converted to full titan hydraulic disc brakes. within two years the entire system has to be pulled apart and redone. all the races, bearings etc are perfect but the calipers have to be completely rebuilt.
salt water esta no bueno
noluck
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one reason i go strait electric, no expensive parts, i do get the marine backing plates. no bleeding or messing around with serge hitches
Please elaborate on your electric setup (assuming stoping force is adjustable on the forward controller in the cab...)
I wouldn't be sad to have a cheaper alternative to the 6-8k full rebuild of eoh system.
