STACKING

Fishallspec

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I was wondering what the guidelines are when stacking 2 lines/downrigger.It seems kind of intimidating to have a bunch of lines hanging off.I have 2 electric scotties on my 14'ter but I usually just put 1 off each side and 1 straight out back (high line).When I see these (you) charter boys with 4,5,6 lines out I think what the hell happens if he gets a fish on? Looks like tangle city!!If they get a fish ,do they bring 'em all up?I know things get real busy on my little boat with a fish on I don't even want to think of a double header!!!lol .Any ideas I'm always will'n to try!!THX
 
ya stacking can be a bit tricky. to start off, you need to make sure you have enough space between your stacked lines. that mostly depends on trolling speed, whether both rigs have flashers, and cannon ball wieght(i use 10's cause i have handcranks - definately use more if your using electrics). if i'm trolling my regular speed, and have a no flasher rig on the bottom and a flasher rig on the top, i'll stack them 22' apart. if they both have flashers, i'll push it to 30'. if neither have flahsers, i'll go as close as 12'. some people get away with stacking them closer than i do, but i don't think its really necessary and you'll get tangled more. also, make sure you stagger your depths in relation to the other side of the boat. say you want to run four lines and you know there are fish at 60'. run at 44 and 66 on one side and 55 and 77 on the other. that way you are all around your target depth and all your lines are reasonably far apart.

when you hit a fish, what you do depends on what it is. if you think its a spring, by all means, get all your gear up. if its anything else, sometimes with the exception of big chum or big coho, maybe just slow down a little but leave the other rods down. except if its on a bottom rod, then get the top rod up as quick as possible. most tangles, in my experience, are from coho grabbing the bottom rod and heading for the surface. if i see something hit the bottom rod, and it doesn't pull it out of the clip, or look like a spring, i'll pull the top rod off the clip and get someone else to real it in, or put it in a rod holder on the other side of the boat, or whatever it takes to get it somewhat out of the way, then deal with the fish.

my advice is not to run too many rods unless you have enough people to deal with all of them, or the fishing is slow and its necessary to catch something.
if fishing is reasonable, i'll start pretty much every morning with two rods regardless of how many people i have out, then as it slows down, throw out a top rod, usually a hootchie or a big whole herring. and if its dead, put out the forth.

hope this helps, but this is just an opinion, i have only guided 2 years, there are ppl on here that have been doin it alot longer than that who i'm sure have different ways of doing it.

Thanks Captain Dudds
 
THX for the info ! One thing I was wondering is,if it matters how far back off the downrigger line each one goes? Top one closer 20'? bottom one @ 30'?(Hey that might be not a bad idea?).Must be fun when fishing in 50-60' of water.I guess watching your speed on tighter turns can be an issue as well?
 
"One thing I was wondering is,if it matters how far back off the downrigger line each one goes? Top one closer 20'? bottom one @ 30'?"

Actually the opposite causes far less tangles. Top line out farther than the bottom. A shorter bottom, once released with a fish, has less chance of getting into the top line.

Stacking is one of those things that keeps getting easier with more and more practical experience.
 
I'm not sure if I would want to be stacking on a 14 ft aluminum as your deep lines are already quite close together because your boat is not very wide. They say that your two cannon balls are only 2 boat widths apart for every 100 feet of downrigger line down. The other thing is how many rods can you handle at one time. I find that you need 1 person for each 2 extra rods, then bring in the deepline and 1 person to play the fish.
 
Even in a 14ft boat you can stack and avoid tangles...you just have to know the trick. Use cannon balls with the metal fin...bend each fin so the balls plane away from boat and they get quite a distance from one another, hence no tangles! It's more work...but you get more fish.
 
How many lines (rods) are you allowed to fish per boat? Is there a limit of lines... One per person? two per person?
 
I from personal expeirence can say 4 rods by your self is alot of work but it also can be so much fun!!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>I run four rods lots of the time by myself and have had double headers and landed both not often but at times. Thats why in the pics you see of my boat I have two nets, sometimes no time to get the first fish out of the net before landing the next. The real problem is if you do get a rats nest by the time you get it sorted out the bite may be over. For chinook I mostly use two unless others on the boat. For all other salmon I use four, I cover more depths and it gives me more lines for different set ups. I stack no closer together then the distance of my bottom line from clip to the flasher. (ie The bottom line from clip is 15 feet to the flasher or lure, then no less then 15 ft between clips)Everyone has what works for them this is what works for me. During Sockeye I have 4 rods and min. 2 sometimes 4 dummy flashers out on the deep lines now that becomes very interesting and trust me never to boring. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>I will say I also have 5 foot booms on my elect scotties. As for pulling the gear all up I don't unless I think I have a big spring on! But in saying that I have lost nice fish by not pulling all my gear.

Just My Opinion
Cheers ME


Happy Hookin!!!


Edited by - MyEscape on 09/14/2005 22:35:39
 
GOOD STUFF!!! I like the bending fin idea!I have one 48" and a 30" boom rigger (my boats fiberglass by the way)with that little bend and some practice I'll be a stacken!THX GUYS!!
 
Definitely bend the fins! its quite amazing how much they plain out.. since we bent the fins we have never had a tangle with any of the side rods!.. With the cannon ball in its natural position in the water while trolling, bend the fin out away from the boat, it really works! Make sure you use the same cannon ball on the same side each time.. don't get them crossed or your cannon balls with plain inward!!
 
To answer an earlier question you legally allowed to run as many rods as you want-there is no limit in Saltwater.
As to Pancake weights Be Advised</u> that they can from time to time shear off-sometimes into each another-they aren't all that reliable in that respect.
I have stacked 5 rods on one downrigger in a 15' boat just to prove a point but it's probably a good thing that fish weren't biting that day <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 
That's true...don't bend them too much. There is an ideal angle that will allow them to plane to the max without flipping back on themselves. It's not rocket science and it works well. Bring on the fish!!!
 
I tried it for the first time at alberni without any problem.I was using 2 scotty electric 30 inch booms,I was using a 13# stainless rod and my buddy was using an 8# ball.We were after sockeye we had no tangles,I had a dummy flasher off the ball,10 ft up, and a flasher and lure,15-20 ft above that. repeat the process.Here's where the difference might lie,the top rod should be put in the holder closest to the stern, and the deepest closest to the bow.The local experts can correct me if i'm wrong.

thanks the runt
 
One more thing, put the flashers about a third of the differnce apart like 30ft. back and 15 to 22 back good luck

thanks the runt
 
I've been stacking for years, and after reading all the above posts, I'm really confused. It looks like almost everyone has a different technique that works for them. LOL, good luck.
 
baddogg You got that right ill stick to what i have been doing for over 12 years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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