Shimano 4000 gt implode/explode

[cheech]

I would not believe it if I did not see it for myself...
A few seasons ago a guide buddy had one of his 4000 series bust apart while he was angling with another guide buddy. He swears that #2 stepped on it 'or something'.
Last season we were out and while trolling the bay i witnessed the destruction 1st hand...
After setting the hook and then the 1st run the whole body of a different reel IMPLODES or explodes what have you.
Now normally I would say it was bad maintenance but, buddy #1 is pretty good at changing line and what-not, as he had just done a few days before.
Other than the fact a reputable shop on Douglas put the line on incorrectly, are these reels susceptible to such a fault?
I have a 2000 series and have had no problems at all.
Thoughts?

 

[scott craven]

Reel needs backing...
they should have done that when reloading it.
Mono stretches so tight on the spool, it will explode.

 

[scott craven]

Reel needs backing...
they should have done that when reloading it.
Mono stretches so tight on the spool, it will explode.

 

[Striper Sniper]

I guess that would be another reason to buy an Islander..... (Just stirring up the pot ) SS

 

[Striper Sniper]

I guess that would be another reason to buy an Islander..... (Just stirring up the pot ) SS

 

[highlights]

Islander, Pflueger, Abel, Redl, Shimano etc. all need to be loaded correctly for longevity. Mono to the base of the spool is asking for trouble on any reel. Machined reels are even more prone to spools splitting because of mono tightening down on the hub.

 

[highlights]

Islander, Pflueger, Abel, Redl, Shimano etc. all need to be loaded correctly for longevity. Mono to the base of the spool is asking for trouble on any reel. Machined reels are even more prone to spools splitting because of mono tightening down on the hub.

 

[Kisinana]

I had a 4000GT spool crack the face about 90 percent off on a fish hit. When I talked to my local outdoor store he said the same thing that the mono slides on itself tightening up until the pressure lets go somewhere. He suggested and I now do it about every other month to let the line completely out and reel it back in,this will relieve the tension that builds up.
My only hope is I never have a strike while I am doing this.

 

[Kisinana]

I had a 4000GT spool crack the face about 90 percent off on a fish hit. When I talked to my local outdoor store he said the same thing that the mono slides on itself tightening up until the pressure lets go somewhere. He suggested and I now do it about every other month to let the line completely out and reel it back in,this will relieve the tension that builds up.
My only hope is I never have a strike while I am doing this.

 

[Dogbreath]

The one use for 30# Dacron is backing.

I mean no one fishes with it anymore and I like Spectra but to put 300 yards on a reel and cover it up with 100 yards of mono never to see the light of day seems a waste.

I never really believed about mono tightening up like that until one day I stripped some 6# off a small spinning reel and just wrapped it around my hand man did it tighten up quick and hard!

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[Dogbreath]

The one use for 30# Dacron is backing.

I mean no one fishes with it anymore and I like Spectra but to put 300 yards on a reel and cover it up with 100 yards of mono never to see the light of day seems a waste.

I never really believed about mono tightening up like that until one day I stripped some 6# off a small spinning reel and just wrapped it around my hand man did it tighten up quick and hard!

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[Sushihunter]

I bought 4 new Shimano GT4000's in '03 Previous to that, I used the GT2000's. Just shortly after buying the 4K's, I heard that they had a problem with the drums splitting. Had I known that, I would have stuck with the 2K's. I had to replace two drums in '07 when I noticed that one was out of round and upon further inspection I could see line popping out under the label on the face of the reel.

I took them into Tyee Marine in CR and got a new drum including the handles for $15 each, I bought 3 of them. Two replacements and a spare. Be sure to strip the handles off of any drum you take in. keep them for spares.

The basic problem is that they made the 4K's thinner in order to put more line on the reels. That is why they are splitting.

Jim's Fishing Charters
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[Sushihunter]

I bought 4 new Shimano GT4000's in '03 Previous to that, I used the GT2000's. Just shortly after buying the 4K's, I heard that they had a problem with the drums splitting. Had I known that, I would have stuck with the 2K's. I had to replace two drums in '07 when I noticed that one was out of round and upon further inspection I could see line popping out under the label on the face of the reel.

I took them into Tyee Marine in CR and got a new drum including the handles for $15 each, I bought 3 of them. Two replacements and a spare. Be sure to strip the handles off of any drum you take in. keep them for spares.

The basic problem is that they made the 4K's thinner in order to put more line on the reels. That is why they are splitting.

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250

 

[Highliner]

quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

Reel needs backing...
they should have done that when reloading it.
Mono stretches so tight on the spool, it will explode.

I really didn't know what the purpose of the backing was. I just figured maybe it was a cheaper material to partially fill the reel. So how come when I filled my Daiwa reel at IO they didn't mention it to me? I've also got an MR3 which apparently doesn't need backing, but maybe it would be a better idea to have some on there. What is the backing material?

Highliner

 

[Highliner]

quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

Reel needs backing...
they should have done that when reloading it.
Mono stretches so tight on the spool, it will explode.

I really didn't know what the purpose of the backing was. I just figured maybe it was a cheaper material to partially fill the reel. So how come when I filled my Daiwa reel at IO they didn't mention it to me? I've also got an MR3 which apparently doesn't need backing, but maybe it would be a better idea to have some on there. What is the backing material?

Highliner

 

[Charter Tofino]

Ushually braided

 

[Charter Tofino]

Ushually braided

 

[cheech]

I have known about backing but, most of my mono gear just got fresh fill over 'the backing'. Fly guys (like me) know about backing and I have seen all kinds of braided on all kinds of reel situations.
Now is a new paradigm for such it seems as far as mono applies.
BTW if anyone wants to part with a set of 4000 series handles, I would love to deal. pk

 

[cheech]

I have known about backing but, most of my mono gear just got fresh fill over 'the backing'. Fly guys (like me) know about backing and I have seen all kinds of braided on all kinds of reel situations.
Now is a new paradigm for such it seems as far as mono applies.
BTW if anyone wants to part with a set of 4000 series handles, I would love to deal. pk

 

[wolf]

Not braided as thats spectra fiber and kinda pricy for something you just dont use and its not thick enough, use good old dacron the thicker the better I usually put a 100 yds of the thickest I can find and then put on the mono as then you leave the dacron on forever and keep replacing the mono.

With a lot of backing on the reel it is now a big cushion for your reel and it kinda forces you to replace your line after you loose a bunch of it and really thats a good thing cause after a month or more of good hard use you really dont know where all the nicks and abrasions are.
Line is cheap and you never know when that big fish will hit and you dont want to loose the fish of a lifetime because you were to cheap to replace your line now do you.

Good luck wolf

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