Prawn And Shrimp Closures

Yeah for sure FA ! ..............As explained to me by a retired Fisheries Manager.......The only reason they call it sustainable is because the prawn eggs drift and can populate wherever they settle sometimes hundreds of miles, so "technically" an area can't be fished out. When they have to close some inlets and confined areas and the like with this closure that in my opinion means the area commercial fishery was opened too soon before enough of the eggs had been released and then for too long afterwards. They are not supposed to open the commercial fishery(s) until test catches have seen the prawns spawned down to 15% with eggs and 85% without. Prawns are males for the first three years then turn female release there eggs and die ( I guess if I turned female I would want to die as well LOL! jk to any ladies reading this ;). It’s at this end stage of the cycle when the fishery is supposed to open and so therefore they are technically sustainable ( bs ). But some commies are not the most conversationalist minded people, Ill just leave it at that. They should close it for commies for 5 years in certain inlets and restricted waters for now and then set strict quotas for them until numbers come back IMHO. Responsible Rec sport fisherman are not the problem ! I am curious now that the star fish are all dieing off how this may affect the food supply for the prawns and crabs and maybe it will be positive.
 
Commercial prawning arguably has been sustainable.... The problem is that they are getting very efficient. The whole fleet is constantly improving year in year out and taking full advantage of the latest technology like seafloor mapping. Like all commercial fisheries, management should take this into account before the fishery becomes unsustainable or collapses.. Just my opinion.

Other than the prawns life cycle... I actually don't think we know much about them lol. Are they in a decline......? Who knows.
 
Yes I am sure the 200,000 recreational anglers have little to no impact. Those darn commies out there fishing for a whole month are the only problem.
How much black market is going on in this fishery??
 
fish4all said:
Yes I am sure the 200,000 recreational anglers have little to no impact. Those darn commies out there fishing for a whole month are the only problem.
How much black market is going on in this fishery??
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How many of the anglers actually prawn fish?
How many anglers set traps more then 2-3 times a year?
How many of them are just happy to get the small feed that they get?
How many empty traps do they pull compared to the period prior to the commercial fleet beating the hell out of certain areas?
As for Black Market sales.... Of course commercial guys are selling them as they do with all fisheries.
 
The point was we are all impacting.

Hey fa how many prawns are caught by the rec sector? Always easy to blame the commies when other sectors have zero accountability.

I have a relative that sports fishes on the west side of the island that boasts 15,000 prawns for his 1 recreational boAt this summer.
 
How about off season commercial prawners? FN??? Prawns are full
of eggers at this time of year!!

Do they actually survive being tossed back over?
Is it still legal to keep egged up ones?

all prawns are male until 3 years, IF the colony needs females more will turn?
 
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Fish Assassin said:
How many of the anglers actually prawn fish?
How many anglers set traps more then 2-3 times a year?
How many of them are just happy to get the small feed that they get?
How many empty traps do they pull compared to the period prior to the commercial fleet beating the hell out of certain areas?
As for Black Market sales.... Of course commercial guys are selling them as they do with all fisheries.
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You should really come out of your cave and educate your redneck self before posting this nonsense.
 
Wow great posts Capt. Hook.. Hmmm your quoting my questions and telling me to educate my self. Maybe you need to get educated yourself. Start with what a question mark is...LOL :)
 
fish4all said:
Yes I am sure the 200,000 recreational anglers have little to no impact. Those darn commies out there fishing for a whole month are the only problem.
How much black market is going on in this fishery??
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I have no problem with the two fisheries co existing. I'm not sure though if the impact of rec fishing carried out by a small number of the total rec fishing community compares with that of the commercial fleet.
A large concentration of boats dropping hundreds of traps in small areas has to have a huge impact. Last year for example the Saanich Inlet was literally carpet bombed by the commercial boats. Can an area recover from this? Don't know if this is more damaging than a lower steady pressure or not?
 
My observation for the purpose of adding information.

Barkley Sound experienced a massive increase to the amount of commercial vessels and traps a couple years back. I do not know the actual percentage but I have heard the increase was in the hundreds(up to 500 from one source) of percent. Last year the fleet was pushed off after a verry short part of the season due to poor and in many cases non existent numbers.

Do these two facts coincide? You decide. I happen to think they just might.
 
another few questions to seek the answer to.

Why did we see such an increase in pressure in area 23 as mentioned above?

What kind of pressure is the commercial sector putting on DFO regarding allocation,management and access to prawns coast wide?

Dose that answer resemble anything ?

Where are most of those commercially caught prawns going ? And dose that answer resemble other species and resources we find ourselves talking about more this decade than last ?

thoughts??
 
There is sure a lot of traps near Tent, Kuper, and Thetis all year, including through all the closure times. I'm sure that can't help the total numbers in the stuart channel area. I had to work extra hard in my favorite spots this year to put 400 in the freezer. They were all really big though, which I was happy about.
 
Jencourt said:
another few questions to seek the answer to.


Where are most of those commercially caught prawns going ? And dose that answer resemble other species and resources we find ourselves talking about more this decade than last ?

thoughts??
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The answer is ......
The spot prawn industry is currently centred on exports; over 90% of the prawns caught in our waters end up in Japan.
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http://bcprawns.com/spot-prawn-goodness/seachoice-“best-choice”-seafood-profile/

Oh what goodness.... and bests choice...
Frack... make sure the folks in Japan get first dibs on the Canadian Resource.
Next thing you know we will be going to the lumberyard for 2x4's only to be told they are not available because we shipped them away...
 
some of you sunshine coast and upper howe sound guys may be affected by these closures
28-1 and 28-5
 
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