Natives outfish recreational anglers

The latest DFO catch stats for 2010 indicate that natives caught more chinook in
the Fraser River than sportfishermen caught in Juan de Fuca (Areas 19 & 20).
Total native in-river harvest was 18,762 while anglers in Juan de Fuca caught
only 14,573. The native catch was split as follows:

FSC (Food, Social & Ceremonial) 13,578 CHINOOK
EO (Economic Opportunity) 5,184 CHINOOK
 
Holy sheet.....

We got 14,573!?.....Between the few marinas in the JDF..... I am gunna say 10 to be on the safe side....So 14,573 divided by 10 is 1,457.....and say from April to September thats 6 months........ 180..ish days.... Every marina had 8.1 Fraser springs weighed in Everyday of the season......I just don't get the math
 
Holy sheet.....

We got 14,573!?.....Between the few marinas in the JDF..... I am gunna say 10 to be on the safe side....So 14,573 divided by 10 is 1,457.....and say from April to September thats 6 months........ 180..ish days.... Every marina had 8.1 Fraser springs weighed in Everyday of the season......I just don't get the math
I think you missed the point. All of our chinook caught in Juan de Fuca were not Fraser River fish obviously. Many of these would have been Washington state hatchery chinooks, Sooke River chinooks, Renfrew chinooks, Nitinat chinooks
and maybe some Lower Georgia Strait (LGS) chinooks. However, all of the native catch were Fraser River chinooks. So the native impact on Fraser chinooks is even much larger than the 2010 catch split might indicate. This could be
very important/useful during upcoming discussions concerning ET (early timed) Fraser chinook conservation concerns. Especially so in light of the upcoming 67 cm + non-retention which we have faced during the last couple years.
 
Silver Streak you make a very good point. I will be very surprised if DFO uses its own information to protect the Fraser river Chinook. Will thge Native Fisherman understand this and will they change the way and time of year they fish. The proof wil be in the putting. Does DFO & do the Native fisherman really care?
 
Silver Streak you make a very good point. I will be very surprised if DFO uses its own information to protect the Fraser river Chinook. Will thge Native Fisherman understand this and will they change the way and time of year they fish. The proof wil be in the putting. Does DFO & do the Native fisherman really care?

Yes they care.... enough to limit the JDF fishery to hatchery only in March
while the natives continue to harvest in the river.
 
Well hold on to your shorts folks, more reductions in the chinook catch to protect the killer whales!

Fishermen in Canada and the U.S. may have to give up part of their lucrative chinook salmon catch to help the recovery of endangered resident killer whales.
Photograph by: Dave Ellifrit, Reuters
Fishermen in Canada and the U.S. may have to give up part of their lucrative chinook salmon catch to help the recovery of endangered resident killer whales.

The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in a news release Wednesday it plans to hold a science workshop with Fisheries and Oceans Canada in the spring to discuss potential catch restrictions.

The federal agency said that "killer whales depend to a substantial degree on large chinook salmon as a high-calorie food source" and that "killer whale productivity is affected by chinook abundance."

As a result of the workshop, both countries will be "better able to determine whether and to what extent additional constraints on salmon fishing may be necessary," it said.

The action comes as NOAA considers a Puget Sound management plan for the native and non-native sport and commercial chinook harvest through 2014.

Chinook is the largest species of Pacific salmon; any move to reduce harvests of the lucrative and tasty fish in favour of killer whales is certain to be controversial.

NOAA says that because of the extensive range of the southern resident killer whales, fisheries from California north to southeast Alaska may be affected.

lpynn@vancouversun.com

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/Canada+...iller+whales/4213858/story.html#ixzz1CrEOPGjc
 
I'll bet the natives and DFO are together on the whale issue. DFO..."hey boys your request to keep the JDF fishery shut down is going to have some problems this year because our science branch has confirmed what we and the JDF boys thought all along...you take most of the fish we are trying to protect. DFO...your going to have to come up with another angle to keep this early closure going because we won't be able to defend it anymore without some other valid reason to continue. Not to be-little the whales plight but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out this is how it really goes down when DFO deals with the FN group.
 
I got back the info from all the heads I submitted and for the upper fraser water shed which they are trying to protect here are the number DFO sent me rather shocking!!!!

Johnstone strait june 17% july 28% aug13%
Georgia strait north may 0 june 7% july27% aug 0 guess nobody fished in may and aug up there???
juan de fuca may 20% june 14% july 19% aug 6%
georgia srait south may,june,july,aug all "0 "zip,nada....... guess no one fishes of of nanainmo or vancouver at all amazing how the fish going past these spots none get caught????

In the jaun de fuca the pugent sound fish is amazing from may to sept goes as followed 60,55,67,43,36, and the greatest number from october to april its a whopping 71%

And they sat there(DFO) at the four points say that them fish only went down the west coast of the island preeching no way do they ever go down the inside. And many commented at that meeting that they found that sooooo hard to believe well the piper piped dint he they infact do go down the inside....WE are soooo doomed by these clowns making rules.....


Wolf
 
when i first read that announcement a couple of days ago i did have to chuckle a bit. what we anglers have 'known' for a long time is now being beatified by NOAA, take away the food, those looking for a meal disappear, astonishing. sort of akin to overfish the herring, allow ag runoff to kill the eel grass, watch the salmon population collapse, astonishing how that thinking does not seem to make any sense to NOAA, WDFW, DFO, FN or NWIFC. it will be interesting to see if this moves forward to the point of getting the gill nets out of our waters, but we all know that ain't goin' to happen! it will mean reduced sport angling and not much else.
 
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