Laptop wanted

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Looking for a new(ish) laptop for kids to share for homework and watching movies.
Anyone upgrading or have advise on what to buy? Hoping for around $500
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Costco will be your best choice....... I bought the one here for under $500 with windows 7 and a I5 processor. 2 year service plan included.
 
Yup.....as FA said, Costco or just open the Saturday morning paper and look at all the flyers in there. ;)


Oh....and to save yourself headaches do everything you can to find Windows 7......8 is a bit of a nightmare to navigate around unless you run it in 'desktop' mode.
 
If you don't mind used, check out the BC Gov surplus sales. There's three sites around the province where they hold public cash and carry sales.

Here's a link:
http://www.pss.gov.bc.ca/air/public-sales.html

Give the location of your choice a call and see if they have what you're looking for. I've seen decent, relatively modern laptops for $200ish.

Or... you can try your luck on the BC Gov Surplus Asset auction site. Sometimes there are laptops there too.
https://www.bcauction.ca/open.dll/welcome
 
If you wish to stay with Windows I would either go with Window 7 or if you can, wait for Windows 9 which there is indication will be released in April of 2015.

Windows 8 has had poor sales and is perceived by many as having poor support for the desktop GUI, mouse and keyboard. Windows 8.1 is a little better and with service pack 8.1-1 due out in a month or two, it will get better still. But 8 still does not have a standard desktop start menu or the ability to open the new store apps in scalable windows on the desktop for example and if it gets them it will likely be in Windows 9. I am staying with 7 and will take a look at 9 when it comes out to see if warrants getting a new computer with Windows 9 or stay with Windows 7 Pro which will be supported for many years to come.

Basically in my view Microsoft panicked, saw they were being left behind in the smart phone and tablet market, the lucrative App store market and direct hardware sales, and developed a bad case of Apple and Google envy. The basic system core of 8 is good but was released early still needing work and the Graphic User ( the tiles) Interface is touch optimized and designed for a cell phone or a tablet. Not too bad on a smart phone or tablet or even a touch based PC but a panned on a normal PC which work best with a mouse and keyboard. Further many professional viewed it as weak for serious desktop productivity and serious content development as opposed to content accessing on say a tablet or phone. Microsoft gambled that even though they were late to the party that they could leap frog ahead in the tablet and phone touched based world, lucrative walled garden App store business and direct hardware device sales where a lot of growth is taking place. They tried to leveraged there billion or so desktop optimized customers with Vista, XP and 7 by degrading the long standing and loved familiar desktop in Windows 8 and forcing users to the touch based 'Modern' interface by eliminating the start menu etc.

The backlash was huge, business has not adopted it or many others and those forced to upgrade from XP, as it is reaching end of life very soon and will have no security patches or support from MS, are apparently often going to 7.

One wonders if Windows 8 sales would have been even worse had they not used their considerable clout to ensure that most new computers in the big stores came only with Windows 8 installed. Apparently a fair number of 8 computers have been downgraded to 7 or upgraded depending on your point of view.

Windows 8 also got blamed for contributing to the decline of desktop and laptop computer sales already taking a hit from the tablet and smart phone revolution and some high end MS executives have apparently been toasted or transferred over it.

Apparently they took around a billion dollar hit on one of the first version of the Surface Device but the later ones are doing better.

My impression is that the perception of Windows 8 is now so tainted that they want Windows 9 to start fresh and there is strong indication they will back track and bring back greater functionality to the crippled desktop and the use of mouse and keyboard. How well they do it will determine if 9 can overcome the perceived hole MS is in with 8. If those changes are perceived as insufficient and they have two, perceive by many problem operating systems in a row, it will get very interesting although MS has billions and can keep throwing money at it for a long time and are; notice all the TV ads.

On the other hand if you like a tablet touch interface, don't do a lot of content development and like buying through App stores then you should be able to pick up a used Windows 8 or 8.1 computer cheap. Keep in mind that some of the initial apps were perceived as not well done and the MS app store has a way to go to be perceived as the equivalent of the Apple store, but it is reportedly getting better every day in terms of numbers and app quality.

If you think debate sometimes gets hot on this forum on fishing issues you should read the battles going on in forums all over the net on this topic. I have been following it and it is my impression the Windows 8 supporters are losing and I would not be surprised that some of the supporters are paid to support Windows 8 or employees working from scripts given the repetitive nature of their talking points. That seems to be increasingly common on the net.
 
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plenty of options for $500 brand new. Too many people get talked into thinking they need hot rods, but only end up checking email and watching ****. Only ever had Toshibas, they've never failed me.
 
Rockfish has covered all the points about the Windows version so I won't rehash that. What I have found is that the $500 notebooks are cheap because there is a lot of plastics used instead of metals or composites. So if you buy one, you have to baby it a bit and make sure you don't physically abuse it. I got my son an inexpensive Toshiba. Good notebook, but plastic pieces like the screen hinges started breaking after a couple of years. I have two inexpensive netbook laptops sitting in the drawer collecting dust because my daughter used them for a year or two and they started having problems. I got a Lenovo IdeaPad recently and I like it. Lenovo is formerly IBM PC business spun off on its own. Seems a bit more solid then the Toshiba. I also work a lot on Dell equipment and I find their gear is pretty solid too. I'm not a fan of the tier-2 brands (Acer, Asus, etc.)

You'll probably find Windows 7 is not always easy to get from the store. But go online with Dell and you can pick your configuration.
 
I have always been a fan of Dell. I have 2 laptops and an all in one xps. The last dell laptop I purchased was a 14 inch for the kids and its been running great for the last 3 years and it was under $500. But you cant beat costco for thier returns. Rockfish made great points about the operating systems but Windows is Windows they will always have issues and I have a windows 8, 7 and vista and they all preform the same. I actually like my 8 but its on the touch screen so that might make the difference.

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Rockfish has covered all the points about the Windows version so I won't rehash that. What I have found is that the $500 notebooks are cheap because there is a lot of plastics used instead of metals or composites. So if you buy one, you have to baby it a bit and make sure you don't physically abuse it. I got my son an inexpensive Toshiba. Good notebook, but plastic pieces like the screen hinges started breaking after a couple of years. I have two inexpensive netbook laptops sitting in the drawer collecting dust because my daughter used them for a year or two and they started having problems. I got a Lenovo IdeaPad recently and I like it. Lenovo is formerly IBM PC business spun off on its own. Seems a bit more solid then the Toshiba. I also work a lot on Dell equipment and I find their gear is pretty solid too. I'm not a fan of the tier-2 brands (Acer, Asus, etc.)

You'll probably find Windows 7 is not always easy to get from the store. But go online with Dell and you can pick your configuration.

Window 7 laptops and desktop computers are widely available locally at most of the smaller store front computer stores (at last where I live) that specialize in doing repairs and making computer system (OEM's), often to order, and in selling new computers including Lenovo and used fixed up computers. If they make you a computer you can sometimes get oem versions of major software with it at greatly reduced prices. You will not find Windows 7 at the big stores like Future Shop or London Drugs, etc. as Windows 8 is all they have. If you buy the high end professional version of 8 it does allow you to replace it with windows 7 and I understand this was to try and keep business happy, although I am not sure but I think you may have to buy 7 as an extra. I understand it can be tricky to remove 8 and install 7 on many computers but someone who knows what they are doing can usually do it. My impression is they did not want to make it easy. There is also the trend of the makers of major productivity software like MS Office 360 to move away from sales of the product license towards leasing it each and every year which makes them a lot more money. I prefer to own the license.

Have a very high end Soney laptop that looks plastic but is all composite with all SSD etc. It gets the crap beat out of it but is bullet proof. It was 4 times the cost of the cheap ones but very fast and capable of high end games etc. and will last longer and take years longer to become obsolete.
 
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