Haida Gwaii IS Getting Hammered

Karlo

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For people who have dreamed of fishing the rich waters of Haida Gwaii, that dream is rapidly fading. This winter and spring, trawlers have been hitting not only Dixon Entrance and Hecate Strait, but also pounding the West Coast. Worse yet, while bottom-draggers have worked all but the West Coast in the past, midwater trawling has now arrived in force, and they're netting virtually everywhere, including right up to the heads of the West Coast Inlets.

In one February foray, a vessel called "Pacific Legacy" worked the whole west side of Haida Gwaii, starting near Langara Island. It then hit the Freeman Hump and Hippa Island area, then scooped the waters around Rennel Sound and Kano Inlet. After that, it went all the way up to the head of Skidegate Channel, turned, and nailed the whole middle of the channel, right out to The Wall and Marble Island. Then it continued working south, clear down to Cape St James.

A trawler called the "Freeport" is routinely trawling from Rose Spit all the way to Langara Island, then circling around the west side of Langara before turning back. Those are just two of the trawlers that are now hitting Haida Gwaii waters hard. Midwater trawlers are especially frightening, because they are so indiscriminate. The amount of by-catch is brutal.

Since salmon going to and from the Gulf of Alaska pass through the waters of Haida Gwaii as they move north to grow and south to spawn, this highly-destructive fishery will impact migrating fish all over the BC Coast. A good summary of the devastating impacts of this wasteful method can be found on the Pacific Wild website. Examining by-catch records from 2022-23 indicates that trawlers killed over 25,000 Chinook salmon in BC in that season alone. That's obviously totally unacceptable!

I've fished the waters of Haida Gwaii for 50 years, and it's heartbreaking to see this last great area of abundance being ravaged in this way. It's especially painful to have carefully released endangered species like red snapper, or to have refrained from keeping spring salmon, knowing that when I'm not out fishing those same grounds, fish by the ton are being killed and tossed overboard in the waters I rely on. As sportsfishers who revere the salmon and halibut, and who understand the importance of herring and all of the other small fish that sustain our special marine ecosystems, we need to speak out while there's still time.
 
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I would be interested to know ownership of the vessels......
 
I guide on the west side of HG all summer. When the commercial troll opening starts u have maybe a day or 2 of good fishing left before everything is thinned out, and most of the fish we catch will be 8-12lbs with half a jaw missing. Leaving the dock in the morning and seeing a wall of trollers to the north, headed down the west side of HG is a pretty ominous feeling. You can literally follow the trail of bocaccios, yelloweyes, and rockfish floating on the surface behind the troller fleet, as the seabirds pick away at their eyes.

The longliners can rid a whole area of its halibut and lingcod in a matter of days.

Of course being a sportfisherman and a sport guide, Im biased. But I feel like its a supreme abuse of our amazing resource. Its also human nature to farm/harvest everything into extinction. Yay humans!
 
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They have been mid water and bottom trawling there for years. They used to mid water a lot for pollock up there. Bottom drawing between rose spit and langara is likly for sole. I gave done many trawl trips and have seen very few salmon. The boats also have 100 percent at sea and dock side monitoring. I would not freak out too much; If your interested you could get the by catch numbers from DFO. Last I know the Freeport was bought by a North Coast FN.
 
I guide on the west side of HG all summer. When the commercial troll opening starts u have maybe a day or 2 of good fishing left before everything is thinned out, and most of the fish we catch will be 8-12lbs with half a jaw missing.

And when was the last time Area H Troll had anything even close to resembling an opening?

I'll wait...
 
If there is fish around none of the commercial fisheries mop them all up ..... if the did they would be broke. It's no different than FN saying there are 300,000 sports fishermen and they all catch 10 chinook and halibut .... it's just not the case. I recommend that everyone go spend a trip on a commercial boat ... it's an eye opener and an education.
 
If there is fish around none of the commercial fisheries mop them all up ..... if the did they would be broke. It's no different than FN saying there are 300,000 sports fishermen and they all catch 10 chinook and halibut .... it's just not the case. I recommend that everyone go spend a trip on a commercial boat ... it's an eye opener and an education.
I fish the same areas as they do for the opening. I also fish those same areas every day for 3 months before they arrive. The drop off is both rapid and substantial!
 
It's a good thing fish have tails. If there is a drop it's usually short lived ..... those guys fished there for decades before the lodges showed up. I'm not a commercial fisherman but folks need to look at both sides of the coin.
 
We have to live together and work together .... we have way bigger issues than a few commercial fishermen lowering our catch rate for a few days. I would be more concerned about what the Haida think about rec fisherman. Look at the new closures up there.
 
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Esentually the Haida are becoming their own country and governence, on land. The surrounding waters will change too. It is a ways away but that seems to be the direction. The agreement does not apply to privately owned land prior to the Federal and Haida agreement.
 
I fish the same areas as they do for the opening. I also fish those same areas every day for 3 months before they arrive. The drop off is both rapid and substantial!
The rapid decline in fishing is two fold. One, the trollers are good fisherman and do their best to catch their quota in the short time DFO allows them to fish. Just as importantly, the opening day for the area H trollers is Aug 18th. On Aug 18th the vast majority of the chinook have already migrated past the Queen Charlottes so you are already fishing on the back end of the bus.
Just be thankful you don't have to compeat with the area H trollers for the rest of the season. They used to start on April 15th.
Why are the area H trollers closed until Aug 18th you ask. Well, DFO makes them wait until there is zero chance of encountering any south bound at risk chinook stocks. Usually Fraser or WCVI stocks. What about the sportsfishing community, don't they have the same issues with the same stocks? Well yes they do. So why has DFO let sportsfishing have a closed shop while reducing trollers to an Aug 18th opening. Its just what DFO does.
So, instead of complaining about having competition for 15% of your season and no competition for the other 85% of your season, you should be bloody thankful for what you have.
 
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The rapid decline is fishing is two fold. One, the trollers are good fisherman and do their best to catch their quota in the short time DFO allows them to fish. Just as importantly, the opening day for the area H trollers is Aug 18th. On Aug 18th the vast majority of the chinook have already migrated past the Queen Charlottes so you are already fishing on the back end of the bus.
Just be thankful you don't have to compeat with the area H trollers for the rest of the season. They used to start on April 15th.
Why are the area H trollers closed until Aug 18th you ask. Well, DFO makes them wait until there is zero chance of encountering any south bound at risk chinook stocks. Usually Fraser or WCVI stocks. What about the sportsfishing community, don't they have the same issues with the same stocks? Well yes they do. So why has DFO let sportsfishing have a closed shop while reducing trollers to an Aug 18th opening. Its just what DFO does.
So, instead of complaining about having competition for 15% of your season and no competition for the other 85% of your season, you should be bloody thankful for what you have.

Could not have said it better myself.
For years the troll fleet has taken hit after hit after hit.
Quotas slashed (then openly handed to FN's), opening restrictions increasingly narrow and times to miss the largest component of the runs, and more. All of course designed to get them off the water entirely.
To the point most (myself included) simply gave up.
It is no longer viable, yet a few still cling to tradition and struggle on.

For any guide to point a finger at the remaining few as a wave of destruction is beyond self serving IMO.
Kick that horse when it's down.
Wonder who will kicking your horse when it follows the same fate (and under the current trend, that may well not be too far down the road).

Nog
 
The rapid decline in fishing is two fold. One, the trollers are good fisherman and do their best to catch their quota in the short time DFO allows them to fish. Just as importantly, the opening day for the area H trollers is Aug 18th. On Aug 18th the vast majority of the chinook have already migrated past the Queen Charlottes so you are already fishing on the back end of the bus.
Just be thankful you don't have to compeat with the area H trollers for the rest of the season. They used to start on April 15th.
Why are the area H trollers closed until Aug 18th you ask. Well, DFO makes them wait until there is zero chance of encountering any south bound at risk chinook stocks. Usually Fraser or WCVI stocks. What about the sportsfishing community, don't they have the same issues with the same stocks? Well yes they do. So why has DFO let sportsfishing have a closed shop while reducing trollers to an Aug 18th opening. Its just what DFO does.
So, instead of complaining about having competition for 15% of your season and no competition for the other 85% of your season, you should be bloody thankful for what you have.
I have no words for this crap. 💀
 
Thanks for the reminder on why I dont interact on this site anymore. So many awful and selfish opinions, from people who only care about their piece of the pie.

Nobody ever talks about whats best for the fish in these "discussions".
 
What would be best for fish is to be closed to fishing to everyone. What is best for fish from your perspective is closed for everyone except you. Pretty easy to read your agenda.
 
I dont care about my piece of the pie, I care about the pie itself. There is a distinct difference. If theres any projection in here its from you two commercial fishery apologists.

Im not wasting any more of my sunday on this. ✌️
 
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