Esperanza Reports?

[cohochinook]

Heading up to Esperanza on July 27th. Staying at Rodgers Fish Camp for 3 nights fishing out my own boat. Counting the days!

Any recent reports? Thanks in advance!

 

[Bushbear]

We fished out of Newton Cove last week using our own boats. We had a good time. Not many Chinook inside like there were last year. Found some good coho fishing on the W end of Catala Island. Filled the boat limit two mornings in a row in less than 45 minutes. Nothing really big (up to 8+ lbs) but lots of fun.

Used the UV Coho Killers in blue spatterback and White Lightening on 20# leaders about 4' behind small (8") Hot Spot and Pro-Troll e-chip flashers. Most fish were caught between 25' and 35' on the wire.

Some friends picked up a nice Chinook in the area, too.

Some of our group were fishing outside along the Highway and running the wire down to 140' and more to find Chinook to almost 30 lbs. The group caught Chinook, Coho, Chum, and Pinks. We also took halibut, rock fish, and ling cod along with some shrimp. It was a good trip.

 

[cohochinook]

Thanks Bushbear! I picked up a couple of the Coho Killers the other day. Hopefully we'll hit some calm seas to get out on the highway.

Any other reports? Sushihunter?

 

[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by cohochinook

Thanks Bushbear! I picked up a couple of the Coho Killers the other day. Hopefully we'll hit some calm seas to get out on the highway.

Any other reports? Sushihunter?

Sorry, haven't been out since the 14th. From what I hear, things are still good. Coho around Low Rock and on the outside of Catalla Island. I would check Inner Black Rock to Enterprise Reef - work the shallows along the kelp beds between Inner Black Rock to Catalla Island. Just watch as there are a coupled of spots to get trapped in the kelp if you are not paying attention to the sounder and gps.

If weather allows, get out to the Highway near Twin Peaks for big Chinook. Just be prepared to work your way through a bunch of wild Coho to get them. I would try running Tomic Plugs to target the big fish. Lots are finding them pretty shallow - top 40' but I have also heard reports of people dropping to 140' or deeper and hitting some nice Chinook.

Good luck!

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[tyeeking]

OK Sushihunter I've got to ask . . . where are the Twin Peaks on the Highway. My brother and I will be there in mid August. This will be our third year there (went to Telegraph Cove for 10 years) and we love the fishing, scenery and people at Esperanza/Nootka. We always stay in Tahsis. We enjoy fishing the Highway but have not heard of Twin Peaks before.

Alan

 

[cohochinook]

Thanks Jim! Yeah last year the guides at Rodgers were getting some of the bigger Springs at over 200 feet deep. The first day I was out on the highway I was fishing down to 110 and only getting Coho. The second day I started fishing deeper and got some nice Springs. The last day it was too rough to get outside and we fished inside with nothing. Several other boats were doing the same. Glad to hear some Coho around to keep it interesting if it's rough on the outside.

 

[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by tyeeking

OK Sushihunter I've got to ask . . . where are the Twin Peaks on the Highway. My brother and I will be there in mid August. This will be our third year there (went to Telegraph Cove for 10 years) and we love the fishing, scenery and people at Esperanza/Nootka. We always stay in Tahsis. We enjoy fishing the Highway but have not heard of Twin Peaks before.

Alan

Punch this into your GPS:

49-45.088N
127-14.800W

That should put you right on top of one of the 'peaks' the other one is right next to it, and 3rd peak is a little bit further away to seaward.

Head for the waypoint and watch for other boats - there are usually a bunch out there. You can be 5 miles off and still find fish.

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[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by cohochinook

Thanks Jim! Yeah last year the guides at Rodgers were getting some of the bigger Springs at over 200 feet deep. The first day I was out on the highway I was fishing down to 110 and only getting Coho. The second day I started fishing deeper and got some nice Springs. The last day it was too rough to get outside and we fished inside with nothing. Several other boats were doing the same. Glad to hear some Coho around to keep it interesting if it's rough on the outside.

You are most welcome.

Here are some good Chinook spots (in Yellow).

Esperanza Inlet at Rolling Roadstead

Black Rock - Fish along the Kelp Beds between Black Rock and Catala Island - This is SHALLOW water - it is easy to get hung up in the kelp here. Pay close attention to your depth sounder and GPS, and be prepared to hit bottom in some spots. This spot has held big Chinook up to 30 pounds and also many Coho. Not always productive, but hot when they are there. This can be a good place to stay out of the wind and still catch Salmon.

Double Island - Fish in close to the Kelp Beds in front, then turn and keep close by the marker as you pass. This spot is deep and you can get close in - try setting lines deep to 100' for Chinook.

Flower Island - Another good spot for Chinook. Fish in tight to the rock and watch your depth. A couple of Kelp Beds in here too.

The only downside to these spots is that they are inside the nothing over 77 cm line. If you can't get outside due to wind, these are good spots to play catch & release in.



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[cohochinook]

Thanks Jim! I really appreciate the info on the inside spots. I let you know how we make out. Only 5 days to go. Can't wait!

 

[tyeeking]

Jim,

You are a class act the way that you are so willing to share information! Do you keep your boat at Westview? My brother and I would like to buy you a couple of beverages of your choice for being such a class act.

I really appreciate the information.

Alan

 

[Sushihunter]

OK, here is another map from the Esperanza Inlet side of Nootka. This time:

Rosa Harbour

Rosa Harbour Area - This is a fairly easy place to fish. Reasonably sheltered from the wind, Rosa often collects boats in the afternoon when the wind comes up off-shore and brings fishermen in looking for some calm water.

I like to start in the open water around Rosa Island (left side of chart), and troll toward the point on Nootka Island in Rosa Harbour. I will set my gear fairly shallow - 20 to 30' and head straight toward land until I see the depth starting to come up, then when I'm as close as I dare, I make a hard left turn to follow the shoreline around the point. I will try to hug the shoreline as close as possible, watching for shallow spots and kelp beds. Try and run your lines within 5 feet of the bottom in the shallow spots. You will get to know it after you have made a few passes through here.

When you get to the "stop sign" that indicates where the old Fisheries Zone Boundary was marked with a white triangle on a small rock islet, turn hard left and go straight out away from shore. This spot tends to hold big Chinook and this manouver will often get you one. I pulled three out of here one afternoon doing this.

Troll your way back toward Rosa Island but stay to the right of other boats fishing the shoreline. You will often find Chinook out in the deeper water away from the shoreline so don't be afraid to venture out there. Keep a watch for baitfish. You can either turn at Rosa Harbour and run the shoreline on Nootka again, or you can continue across Rosa Harbour to the rock piles off of Rosa Island.

The point off of Rosa Island will often hold Coho, but watch out for floating weed lines, they tend to hold here as well. If you get out past this point you can fish around Flower Island, another good spot for holding Chinook.

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[Sushihunter]

Ferrer Point

Ferrer Point - The Mecca of Area 25 Chinook fishermen. Well, it was before DFO put the no fish over 77 cm rule into effect last year and this year. In the hopes that this rule will go away in the future or you want to play catch & release with some big fish, this is the place to be.

Weather can be a bit of an issue in here. Most of the time you can hide out in the back bay and be fairly protected. Venturing out around Ferrer Point itself will put you into some big swells some days until you have had enough and turn back for calm water of the inside.

Getting here can be a bit of a challenge too. If you are coming out of Esperanza Inlet, past Pin Rock, you will be heading across many small reefs and kelp beds. A good GPS and Sounder are important here</u> - so is keeping your eyes open for the many drying rocks. Depth can change from 90' to 12' in a big hurry here.

Once you are safely here, put your gear in the water a 1/4 mile away from the shoreline and troll your way into the pack. When Ferrer is open, you can see up to 100 or more boats working the shoreline here.

Get into the yellow areas and go with the flow. Work tight to the shoreline and watch the sounder/gps for shallow spots - there are a couple here. When you get into the back bay, you will see that it is slowly shallowing, turn out away from shore and keep a look out for a small kelp bed. It is hard to finds sometimes. Mark it on your GPS as you will want to return here often. I have found many big Chinook here as I make the turn to avoid the Kelp. I once got both downrigger lines tangled in the kelp. All of a sudden, both lines started a slow run away from the boat. We gave the lines a jerk to set the hook and two nice 25 pound Chinooks exploded from the water for the fight of a lifetime!

If there is lots of boats working the shoreline, don't be afraid to leave the pack. I have done quite well in the area away from where everyone else is working. The green areas on the chart are secondary fishing grounds. Work them deeper than you would the prime yellow areas. Don't be afraid to bump bottom with the cannonballs. I had a friend of mine work one downrigger just off the bottom and we picked up three nice big Chinook one day.

Ferrer is primarily a Chinook spot but there are Coho to be found in here at times. If you are looking for Coho, then you will want to be outside on the point and around the many reefs across the front of Nuchatlitz Inlet near the surf line.

When you decide it is time to head home, turn and troll your way across the flats until you come to Nuchatlitz Reef. You can pull the lines here or bring them up to 25' or so and continue to troll through the rock piles. I have pulled quite a few fish out of here doing just that. Something about fishing in places where no one else is fishing.


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[Bouy O Boy]

Those are great charts Jim, I love that tack on Rosa we've pulled some nice springs off there cut plugging. I like that you mentioned the right hand to shore rule. I noticed fishing out there and in Nootka not a whole lot of fisherman follow this rule. Guiding up North was nice 90% of the boats follwed it. Keeps the gong shows to a min.

 

[cohochinook]

Thanks Jim! The charts are great. I appreciate you being so kind in sharing your wealth of knowledge on the area.

I just heard from the owner of Rodgers Fishing and they had clients just come in with a limit of Spring at 10 AM. The biggest was 33. He said hoochies and spoons.

 

[JuandeOne]

Awesome info Sushihunter. We are heading up there next week for a few days for the first time and this will help quide us big time.

Don't mean to take advantage of your extensive knowledge and generosity but where do guys usually target hali around here? Pretty sure our equipment and tactics are honed but just wondering where to drop a line. Thanks in advance for any info.

 

[Charlie]

Thank you!

Now, can you change... SFBC-HALI-3 to "the largest Salmon I have ever caught", I have never caught a hali there, but that is possible? [:0] [}]
Actually, nevermind, I will do it!

SFBC-HALI-3, as shown, is where I caught my largest salmon to date. It was a 46 pound white. Caught about 5-10' off bottom, on anchovy, the 2nd week of July, 1996. I am still trying to get a 50 pounder!

 

[Sushihunter]

Pin Rock

Pin Rock - One of my favourite places to fish. Pin can be a challenging place to fish. It is in the shallows, lots of rocks, it collects lots of weeds some days, and is exposed to off-shore ocean swells. But when the weather and the fish cooperate, it can be a fantastic place to fish.

I like to start on the Ferrer side of Pin Rock and head toward Esperanza Inlet - right across the face of Pin Rock - be carefull, there is a shallow reef that pokes out here. You just want to graze the edge of this reef. Once you are past the reef, crank the wheel hard right to go around Pin Rock. The water is fairly deep here, but you want your starboard downrigger set to about 20' and the port, not much more than 25'.

The trick here is to get as close to Pin Rock while still avoiding a downrigger hookup on the reef below. Get in the right spot with the right bait or lure and you will get the big fish that hide here.

Once through the 'spot', you can turn right again and go between the two rocks and loop back for another pass through the sweet spot. Or you can turn to the left and loop around and back to more open water. Watch for the Kelp Beds behind Pin Rock.

Make sure your motor is running well - this is not a place to lose your motor! You are fishing very tight to Pin Rock and small problems can become big problems in seconds. Most days there will be an ocean swell coming in and water height can change 5 or 6 feet in a few seconds as you pass the rock. On a high tide, Pin Rock and it's companion rock can be almost covered - keep a bit of distance then as you can not see what is below you.

Again, I have to remind you that Pin Rock is inside the 'Nothing over 77 cm Rule' line. Also, some days the flats to the West of Pin Rock can hold Chinook. I discovered this one day when there were lots of boats fishing tight to Pin and I needed some room to turn around an get in line to make another pass - hooked about 5 big fish out 200 to 300 yards from Pin.



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[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by Charlie

I don't want to start any trouble, But,once or twice is okay, but now... we are talking about things I have a copyright on and that would apply in both the U.S and CA? [V]

So, now I have to ask, did Island Fish Lifter give you what I sent him (if he did, if you look on the bottom of the pages you will see my copyright)? Also, I don't have a problem with that, nor do I have a problem with sharing, but the content you are posting are "my charts, my areas, my information"... and it is my "copyright"! </u>

I would NOT put YOUR address on any of them, without permission, as the content very much belongs to me!</u>

Again, what is being posted are copies of my charts and my information, with very little modification [V]
I really don't mind sharing the information and I do that freely, but You need to be advised... Everything I post does have a "copyright"! [V]

Charlie:

Are you referring to me in this post?

If so, I did not get any of these charts from Island Fish Lifter. I spent several hours creating these charts myself, using screen grabs form my Navionics map chips with NavPlanner. I then imported into Photoshop and put in the extra info to make them "fishing charts". I then wrote the text that describes how to fish these spots as I posted them to the forum. This is based on my own experience and knowlege of these areas. I have not used any notes or other writing to create these posts.

So, unless you own the rights to Navionics Charts, I'm not sure what you are going on about here - perhaps you can elaborate?

Jim's Fishing Charters
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[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by Charlie

quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter

quote:Originally posted by Charlie

I don't want to start any trouble, But,once or twice is okay, but now... we are talking about things I have a copyright on and that would apply in both the U.S and CA? [V]

So, now I have to ask, did Island Fish Lifter give you what I sent him (if he did, if you look on the bottom of the pages you will see my copyright)? Also, I don't have a problem with that, nor do I have a problem with sharing, but the content you are posting are "my charts, my areas, my information"... and it is my "copyright"! </u>

I would NOT put YOUR address on any of them, without permission, as the content very much belongs to me!</u>

Again, what is being posted are copies of my charts and my information, with very little modification [V]
I really don't mind sharing the information and I do that freely, but You need to be advised... Everything I post does have a "copyright"! [V]

Charlie:

Are you referring to me in this post?

If so, I did not get any of these charts from Island Fish Lifter. I spent several hours creating these charts myself, using screen grabs form my Navionics map chips with NavPlanner. I then imported into Photoshop and put in the extra info to make them "fishing charts". I then wrote the text that describes how to fish these spots as I posted them to the forum. This is based on my own experience and knowlege of these areas. I have not used any notes or other writing to create these posts.

So, unless you own the rights to Navionics Charts, I'm not sure what you are going on about here - perhaps you can elaborate?

Jim's Fishing Charters
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If you want to use somone's ideas to promote your business, you should find someone who doe NOT have a copyright on them!

But, your recent posts are based off MY ideas, My content, and My writings and are protected by copyright.

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Charlie:

Please don't quote the copyright act - I can look that up myself if I need it.

Please - be specific about what you are claiming copyright to, and what you believe I have copied from your work.

I have not seen anything like what I have posted here that covers the areas I have made fishing charts of.

Are you claiming that you own copyright on Navionics electronic charts?

If you are concerned that I am taking part of a chart and highlighting fishing areas on it - I hardly think that is copyrightable except to directly copy your work. Fishermen have been highlighting and marking charts long before we had computers or GPS available to us.

As I stated before, the charts that I made are based on my own experience fishing those spots. I have made them up over the last few days, and I have not copied information from you or anyone else.

The base charts used are from a Navionics Chart Chip that I use in my Lowrance GPS and some of the screen grabs may show my own waypoints as they show on my GPS and on Navionics NavPlanner that I use on my computer.

Please, show me where I have erred here.





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[Charlie]

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