Do You Think These Would Work for Springs?

Dogbreath

Dogbreath

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Was in the No Frills up on Broadway and ran across these Goldband Fusiliers something about the colour appealed so I snapped a few pics.

There are dyes available for the baits Herring & Anchovy we regularly troll but what about a baitfish that's already Red?

We already use some pretty crazy colour combos on artificials maybe the Yellow Stripe and Black tail tips would be a winner-the shape is about right a little fatter through the middle-has anyone here ever pegged something completely different in a Teaser Head or spun one whole?

Apologies for the lousy pics conditions weren't ideal in the frozen food section and I took them in a hurry some store don't allow photography.

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I don't know about Springs, but we've tried some pretty weird looking frozen fish from Asia
on Halibut when the bait's been scarce and they work.
 
Ling ling ling,,, hali!!

Springs? Maybe in a large hearing holder, if it had the right action?
 
Apparently they are used as a baitfish in the tuna fishery.
 
If you can find small NORTH CALIFORNIA SARDINE (Pilchards) pretty hard to beat. Usually 6 - 7 inches and fits in a herring head holder. Deadly at times.

Drewski
 
I dont get it. Are you serious? Why would you want to try to fish those over something your target fish eats in their natural environment?

Last time I checked salmon don't migrate to the Red Sea. Are they dirt cheap or something? Even then you would be better off hanging out at the dock waiting for guys to bring in their old brined herring that they we going to chuck over the side of the boat.

Whats the logic? Is it because it is reddish? They may well work, but why would a salmon go out of his way to eat that fish? Maybe If he was feeling adventurous and wanted to 'go exotic' for the night?

Its worth a try I guess. I wonder if they went for one if they would also go for a baby carp?
 
wishiniwasfishin1 said:
I dont get it. Are you serious? Why would you want to try to fish those over something your target fish eats in their natural environment?
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Lack of imagination noted.

wishiniwasfishin1 said:
Last time I checked salmon don't migrate to the Red Sea. Are they dirt cheap or something? Even then you would be better off hanging out at the dock waiting for guys to bring in their old brined herring that they we going to chuck over the side of the boat.
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Lack of imagination noted x 2.

wishiniwasfishin1 said:
Whats the logic? Is it because it is reddish? They may well work, but why would a salmon go out of his way to eat that fish? Maybe If he was feeling adventurous and wanted to 'go exotic' for the night?
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See my remarks re: commercially available bait dyes already widely used in the Pacific NW recreational fishery.

wishiniwasfishin1 said:
Its worth a try I guess. I wonder if they went for one if they would also go for a baby carp?
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There's another angle you haven't considered-smell-these animals aren't like anything Salmon have smelled in the past.

FYI people who live near the reefs where fish like Fusiliers are found prefer eating those little reef fish over large pelagics like Tuna & Mackerel because the smaller fish have more fat-which makes them tastier.

Can Salmon smell that underwater?

Halibut sure can.
 
wishiniwasfishin1 said:
I dont get it. Are you serious? Why would you want to try to fish those over something your target fish eats in their natural environment?

Last time I checked salmon don't migrate to the Red Sea. Are they dirt cheap or something? Even then you would be better off hanging out at the dock waiting for guys to bring in their old brined herring that they we going to chuck over the side of the boat.

Whats the logic? Is it because it is reddish? They may well work, but why would a salmon go out of his way to eat that fish? Maybe If he was feeling adventurous and wanted to 'go exotic' for the night?

Its worth a try I guess. I wonder if they went for one if they would also go for a baby carp?
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[sarcasm]That's right! You should only present a bait or lure that looks just like the salmons natural food sources. That's why every fishing lure you see in the tackle shop is an exact replication of these bait fish.[/sarcasm]
 
You are talking to a guy that loves to experiment on the water. I make my own spoons that salmon have hit so hard they ripped the top frontal portion of their skull apart trying to get at it.

Experimentation is one of the most fun parts about fishing. Within reason though. Beef short ribs, while expensive come on a nice little curved bone and are mostly fat. Could you drill a hole in the bone and bolt one into a teaser head? Probably. Would it leave a juicy fat trail in the water? Undoubtedly. Would I try that out while fishing for salmon? Nope. I wouldn't anchor and mooch with a live mouse either.

There is a reason why commies (guys who fish for a living to put money in the bank) use tried and true gear...gear that imitates what the target fish are eating.

A guy can do whatever he wants on the water, but if (like for most people) time on the water is limited and you want to actually catch a fish its probably best to stick to whats currently on the menu in the Pacific Northwest waters. Hali will eat anything. So will crab, but salmon can be quite picky.

There is a ton of stuff on the shelves in the stores but there are reasons for that. Most of the gear imitates local baitfish to some extent. Also, tackle companies and fishing stores are like any other business. They need to sell more gear every year to grow and remain profitable. Just like golf clubs and tennis rackets, the idea is that you will be not successful unless you are using the latest and greatest.

I may be wrong about these pretty little fish, and i would love to hear how the experiments go. I will stick to herring and needlefish though.
 
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