Breakwater

falcon1

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If I were to fish off the breakwater in Victoria, how should I go about it? Any tips on gear, techniques etc would be greatly apreciated
 
When I was a kid, we used to go down to the marina and get a bunch of pile worms. We used old clothes hangers and 1/2" nuts for weights and just bottom fished from about 2/3 along the outside of the wall. Of course, that's about 45 - 46 years ago! (-;
 
Hi falcon1, Labman2 is right about fishing the breakwater like that if you wanted to catch some Tommy cod and maybe even some Sea Perch. If you fish off the inside near dusk with a small lead head white jig you will catch some nice eating Sea Bass. But if you want to try and catch Salmon from the breakwater you should go right to the end and cast out a Buzz Bomb or a lure like that. Its good and deep right off the end by the light house, make sure you let your lure sink down a fair bit before reeling it back in. If you do cast out deep you might also get a Ling Cod. Good luck and remember..... keep your tip up!!! Steve.
 
For the sea bass I used to use 2 inch Rapala's, sinking ones with a black back and silver or gold side. They were deadly. And like Labman, it was a crapload (although not as big of a crapload :p) of years ago but... it likely still works. LOL

Remember the sea bass are considered rockfish (Black Rockfish) and you are only permitted to whack one per day.
 
what about putting a single hook on the buzz bomb instead if the treble? I asked last year and followed the advise of 'going off the end by the light house and letting it sink' totally didnt work, basically like a grappling hook to the rocks below. unless there free... i wouldnt go bigger then a 4.
 
ya buzzers!!,, try it with a single circle hook.. just make sure its not too big and heavy or you won't get the right action out of your flutter
 
Took my nephew down to fish for salmon off the end of the breakwater 3 years back and it was near impossible as whale boats were coming from the east and rounding the corner about 20 feet out at full throttle all day long. The wake would just about wash you off the breakwater. The irony is that behind us was a giant harbor speed limit sign posting the max speed as 7 knots. They should treat them the same way they do with high performance cars racing. Confiscate the boat and sell it at auction. Do that just once and the owners will be getting rid of the worst of the whale boat skippers.
 
I think one side of the lighthouse (outer) is deep....and the inner side it comes up shallower if I'm not mistaken.

I wouldn't bother "casting" for Ling Cod. They will be sitting on the ledges or the bottom and the outer side of the lighthouse it is about, if i recall, 110ft deep. So if you are casting for those you need to be down there......and you can expect to lose a few jigs doing that.

A buzzbomb has good casting ability...you can throw those things a long way.

I would cast out to deep water....and then use a stop-pause-start retrieve.....but I would not wait for it to sink down deep all that much.

I would use Green/white, Black/white,Green/Chrome, or plain white for salmon.

Where do those whale-boats come from? The inner harbor? What the heck are they doing 20ft from the end of the breakwater? They shouldn't be anywhere near that close.....


Another thing you can do with a treble hook.......cut the third welded treble tine off.....file the remaining nub down and bend the the two other two tines so they stick straight out from each other. Keep the weld on the shank intact and don't break it.
This way you have far less of a "grapple' but still have a balanced hook with two tines on it.

For salmon they must be barbless.
 
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Where do those whale-boats come from? The inner harbor? What the heck are they doing 20ft from the end of the breakwater? They shouldn't be anywhere near that close.....

They were not all at 20 feet out, some were way out there 30 to 70 feet. We would try to jump up one block on the brake water to avoid most of the oncoming tsunami wake. It seemed to be a matter of pride as to how close they could cut it and how fast they could go. Speeds the main issue. I guess the faster they can get in to the inner harbor, the faster that can get more money out of the next load of tourists and fit in an extra trip. I know they do rarely have patrol boats out their giving speeders warnings, so perhaps it is not quite as bad as it was. Some have been complaining on other threads about some of the whale boats going right out through the fishing fleet in beside the brakewater at speed, creating a hazard, rather than going out farther west to the outside and then turning east and avoiding most of the fishing boats. The bottom line is some want to get around that corner close and turn east as it’s the fastest route. That said some, especially the really big ones are more safety conscious, give a little more distance and do go slower through the fishing fleet.

By the way I use to do a lot of shore fishing for salmon around Victoria. Over time you learn to count your seconds while the lure sinks and work out your retrieve to avoid the bottom and ledges. Deeper is better but it is a learning curve for each location and the cost of that learning is paid in lost lures. Back in the day we use to buy them back cheep from the divers and go out on sub zero tides and pick them up.

The most common mistake with casting Buzzbombs is the last retrieve pull where the lure can hit the rocks and crimps the soft alloy over on the line running through the lure, cutting it or partially cutting it, leading to lost fish and lures. Check for that often.
 
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Go with 30lb braid or higher. I just spooled up with 20lb braid on my casting rod and I regret it it's not strong enough to pull off the bottom when hung up and the line can break from a cast if it doesn't pay out smooth. Lighter will work but you will lose more gear.
 
Years ago, I spent many MANY hours on the end of of our breakwater spincasting for salmon with with my Daiwa 7000c/Zebco rod before I was "boat-blessed'. I used about a 1 1/2 oz. Stingsilda or a variety of Buzzbombs (typically 4" white/pink stripe). Also Ross Bay and Ten Mile Point. Thirty pound mono (no braid then!) and checked knot and line every other cast as there is a lot of force generated by the casting. I caught very few salmon doing this, but hey it was very enjoyable, except for the pilot boats and one very large sea lion that wanted my spot once! You will lose gear if you don't check it often or let it sink a bit too long..but that's part of the challenge, eh?
 
About 5 years ago I used to spend quite a bit of time fishing around the wall for big lings. I was afloat, but the shore guys get them too. Whip out a big herring and just let it sit on the bottom.
 
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