I have been using and making these traps for close to 12 years now. Yes it sucks when you lose 1, even when you lose a string of 4 (damn thiefs) but it only costs me less than 20 clams to make. I have made them in black or white, i even tried black and white just to test and i can tell you there is no differance, just remember there is only 1-3 % of light down at 400 feet. THey stack great though you need to be careful not to push them down or they will crack, they dont leave rust marks on the deck. And they will hold all the rope you use inside them.