Well, I suspected as much. I made too many, but its not worth for me to sell them cheaper than that. Ill just have lots extra. I didnt lose any last season, and only one the season before. Id be interested in trading someone straight across for some 12 pounders, also, I need some 2lb. hali weights. Like I said, I have 15lb round cannonballs and 1.5lb round hali weights. Doug, where's the trap shack? Never heard of it.